Daily Vet Anger Management: A Vet’s Lot When Pets Die

August 11th, 2006  

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Speaking as a client, if I took a pet to you who was just "mopey", I don't know if I would have been thrilled if you'd wanted to do bloodwork, x-rays, ultrasounds, exploratory surgery, etc. all at once. I trust that my vet will treat my pet as they'd treat their own pet, and taking a conservative approach would seem to be a reasonable suggestion in this case. How happy would the owner have been if you'd insisted on exploratory surgery and then found nothing except an upset stomach? What if the elderly dog hadn't survived surgery? There are just so many "what ifs", I think you'd got to just play the odds and give the big picture time to play out. I had a cat die not too long after a thorough "wellness check", and there was nothing to give the vet any clues of impending disaster.

I'm unfortunately reminded of a very unpleasant client I had in my own line of work (website stuff), about 7 years ago. The man in question had a dog who stopped eating and was vomiting a lot, so he called ME to find out what to do. I told him to go to a vet. He gave me some excuse as to why his dog couldn't travel in the car, so I suggested he call a vet who made housecalls. I even looked up a couple of numbers in the phone book for him. He still kept asking me if he should give the dog various otc meds for humans, etc., but I honestly refused to give him an iota of advice except to tell him to go to a vet asap. A few days later I called him as a courtesy to ask about his dog, and he told me the dog had died, and then he blamed me for it! He said (and I quote), "She's dead. I hope you're happy." I remember that phone call so clearly because it shocked me. Of course I didn't want his dog to die, but I'm not a vet and I had no idea why it was sick. He then refused to pay me about $250 he owed me, which I guess was my "punishment".

The moral is, everyone expresses grief differently, and if they express it via anger, someone is going to take the brunt of it.

Leigh-Ann August 13th, 2006 02:03:00 AM

Thanks for the moral support. I haven`t heard from the client since but the necropsy report is sitting on my desk and I don`t yet have the heart to look at it...oh well...

Dr. Patty Khuly August 13th, 2006 10:43:00 AM

I've never seen a necropsy report -- will it tell you exactly what caused the intestines to rupture?

Leigh-Ann August 13th, 2006 06:35:00 PM

Unfortunately, not often enough. I do know that this report came back inconclusive on that issue. If the rupture is caused by a foreign body (let's say, a toy or a bone) then it's obvious. Likewise, if there's a mass present than this, too, makes a diagnosis possible via histopathology (a pathologist looks at the cells and determines that they're abnormal). However, most cases are depressingly devoid of etiology (cause). In clinical practice we vets don't do enough necropsies to get very good at them. As much as our clients want answers to what went wrong, we don't go far enough to make these determinations. Most of the time we don't biopsy the affected tissue--as in this case. It would have helped me a lot, as a clinician, to know what made this tissue break. In this case I'm suspicious of an ulcer (Rimadyl-induced?). But I'm sure the emergency vet had a lot more on his mind than looking inside a dead dog at midnight. The reality is that we don't get much practice because most people prefer not to know exactly how their pets died. I can't blame them.

Dr. Patty Khuly August 13th, 2006 08:58:00 PM

When my pets have died, the vets have asked permission to do a necropsy. In each case I've asked, "Do you think you might find out anything that will help someone else's pet?", and they've always replied in the affirmative. So, I always tell them to go ahead and do the necropsy. The only reason I ask if they think they'll find out something helpful is because I don't want them wasting their time trying to make me feel better, if that's all that's happening. The idea of cutting my pet open is distasteful, but on the other hand, it makes me feel like my pet's life has one final purpose to it.

I guess it comes down to the attitude and outlook of the owner. When my pets have passed away suddenly, I've felt that I could have been a better owner, and that there was something I could have done better. The necropsy helps me learn, too.

Leigh-Ann August 14th, 2006 12:42:00 AM

I applaud your vets for asking such a delicate question. I should do it more often.

Dr. Patty Khuly August 15th, 2006 11:05:00 AM

Sounds like you did everything you could all things considered. We are going through somehting similiar with my mom's old cat, she will be 20 in October and the vet isn't quite sure why there is a bit of blood with each bowel movement. He did a round of baytril but it's back, it's just a few drops and he suggested explorator surgery. She's 20 at this point my mother and I agree that if she isn't in pain... enough that she is expressing it, then let her live, she eats, not a lot but she is still eatting and drinking and getting up to go outside for short walks. I believe in Quality not Quantity of life. Surgury may very well kill her. If the dog had been younger, but sometimes they are just getting old... it's too hot, it's too cold, they have a sensitive tummy... a bit constipated what have you. I have a 14.5 year old poodle who I adopted 3 months ago, she has her days and that's fine with me. She won't live forever, I wish she would, but I know the truth. It's never easy to let an old friend die, but we all do... I don't envy you but please take heart, if you were my vet I would not have questioned what you did, how were you to know... Even if you could have done an exploratory surgery would you have been able to do it that day? Would have recommended it for a dog that age? You noted the symptoms didn't warrant it at this time... Don't question yourself. You did what any good vert would do, discontinued what might be causing the problem, the Rimadyl to see if that would help... It was that dog's time... at 15 sounds like it to me.

Patti August 30th, 2006 08:24:00 PM

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