Vet P.O.V. Kiss My Pit Bull…HSUS Gets Political

November 10th, 2006  

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Thanks for a very thoughtful analysis of HSUS and their efforts. You make very good points. I was wonderfully encouraged by the results of their efforts in this election. It's time that politicians know that they will have voters to answer to if they are thoughtless, heartless and immoral in their treatment of life

Sidney November 11th, 2006 01:51:00 PM

BE WARY of the HSUS, as they may appear to be a pet lover's version of PETA, but one has to be careful nowadays. HSUS may be just another wolf in sheep's clothing, and be just an appendage of PETA... who literally has people convinced that they are all about the animals, however they are NOT in the mentality of the average animal lover. Those kinds of organizations have no problem sacrificing animals for their cause.
Man was given domain over all creatures, and organizations like PETA don't believe that for one minute. I want to support an organization who truly has the animals AND man together as a family in their agenda. Can't wait to find one.

Dawn Ruhl November 12th, 2006 10:11:00 AM

The HSUS DOES rescue animals, BUT on the other hand, I don't entirely trust them either. I have mixed feelings about the HS. I think they do a lot of good. The HS of MO here in St. Louis is very active in promoting good pet care, spay/neuter, affordable vet services and they provide facilities and support for the club that I take obedience classes w/. Whenever there is a pet hoarder rescue or puppy mill shutdown, they are in the forefront taking in the animals. Some people think they are too quick to euth animals that have relatively minor problems. I agree w/that, buuut... they will take in any animal when most of the "no kill" rescues will not. The hard fact is that it may be better for a homeless animal to be humanely euthed than to be homeless, abused or in a cage for the rest of its life. A few years ago, I was a member of the HSMO, but have backed off from that because they are just a little too cozy w/the PETA types. How's that for a gobbletygook of contradictions? :-)

Robyn November 12th, 2006 03:22:00 PM

The Humane Society of the United States is NOT affiliated with your local Humane Society. HS is a generic term used commonly, as is SPCA, which is NOT affiliated with the ASPCA in New York.

As for HSUS, I can see both the good and the not-so in the organization. Many of their programs and their staff are marvelous. Others are misguided, in my own opinion, of course. The HSUS is NOT affiliated with PeTA. Now PeTA, that's another story. They're upfront with their agenda, and I do not personally agree with it.

Gina November 13th, 2006 04:14:00 PM

PeTA is not my thing, either. I`ve done my time in those organizations and now know better. I do worry that HSUS will take on issues within the more radical friges of the animal rights movement. Perhaps I should not have used the word, `refardless` in my post. I would most certainly oppose HSUS were they to adopt a PeTA-like platform. And thanks for clarifying, Gina.

Dr. Patty Khuly November 14th, 2006 12:32:00 PM

Dear Dr. Khuly:

You wrote: "I would most certainly oppose HSUS were they to adopt a PeTA-like platform."

Please understand that they have adopted a PeTA-like platform, and have done so since the 1980s, when they shifted focus from animal welfare to animal RIGHTS. Their fearless leader, President and CEO Wayne Pacelle, former director of the Fund for Animals, is a long-standing animal rights advocate who is on the record as being anti-pet.

Don't believe me? Do some homework. Here are some of my favorite Pacelle quotes:

""We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. ...One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding." -- Animal People, May 1993

"“I don’t have a hands-on fondness for animals…To this day I don’t feel bonded to any non-human animal. I like them and I pet them and I’m kind to them, but there’s no special bond between me and other animals.” -- Wayne Pacelle quoted in Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 251.

(When asked if he envisioned a future without pets): “If I had my personal view, perhaps that might take hold. In fact, I don’t want to see another dog or cat born.” -- Wayne Pacelle quoted in Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 266.

This is the man who is running the HSUS! And these are just a few. The HSUS, like PETA, wants to end our relationship with domestic animals. Period. End of story. They want to, at least eventually, put you out of business. And me (I'm a dog trainer).

Let us not ever lose sight of the ultimate goal of the animal rights movement, of which the HSUS is the most visible and influential player. Some food for thought:

------ "Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
- Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
(PETA), Just Like Us? Harper's, August 1988, p. 50.

------ "Liberating our language by eliminating the word 'pet' is the first step... In an ideal society where all exploitation and oppression has been eliminated, it will be NJARA's policy to oppose the keeping of animals as 'pets.'"
- New Jersey Animal Rights Alliance, "Should Dogs Be Kept As Pets? NO!" Good Dog! February 1991, p. 20.

----- "Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles--from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it."
- John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, (PeTA), 1982, p. 15.

----- "The cat, like the dog, must disappear... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist."
- John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of A Changing Ethic
(Washington, DC: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), 1982, p. 15.

------ "As John Bryant has written in his book Fettered Kingdoms, they [pets] are like slaves, even if well-kept slaves."
- PeTA's Statement on Companion Animals.

----- "In a perfect world, all other than human animals would be free of human interference, and dogs and cats would be part of the ecological scheme."
- PeTA's Statement on Companion Animals.

------- "You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV,"
- Ingrid Newkirk, national director, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
(PETA), Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990.

Tracy D July 14th, 2007 12:38:00 PM

Interesting that you should throw out those quotes, Tracy. Just this week on the Wayne Pacelle blog, he had an interesting post about just those quotes and HSUS's mission: http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2007/07/desperate-di...

Willy July 14th, 2007 01:06:00 PM

Hi, Willy...

I know this is a hard sell and I probably shouldn't be sticking my neck out on this one, but please re-read the Pacelle quotes. Yes, he makes an attempt at knocking down one of them, but take a look at this man's background and his actions, as well as those things backed by the HSUS.

In his blog, he does not challenge his own statement that he has never really bonded with a pet. "To this day I don't feel bonded to any non-human animal."

And "In fact, I don't want to see another dog or cat born."

Think about that.

Think about the fact that the HSUS is not an animal *welfare* organization - they are an animal *rights* organization.

The folks behind the HSUS and other AR groups like PeTA are not stupid. They realize that were their true agenda known, the copious donations that come in from pet lovers across the country and around the world would stop dead.

I've been engaged in fielding and fighting bad animal legislation (particularly related to dogs) for several years now and I have yet to find their actions in any way inconsistent with the quotes which I have provided here. Case in point - California's now dormant (but far from dead) AB 1634, which would require the spaying/neutering of all cats and dogs older than 16 weeks.

The HSUS and other proponents of this bill would point to the exceptions - show dogs, dogs owned by *licensed* breeders with business licenses, certified service and police dogs, etc., but I challenge you to find one show dog, police dog or service dog that would be young enough - 15 weeks old? - to qualify for the exemption. However, puppy mills, which are generally USDA licensed, *would* have remained untouched, except for possible confiscatory fees which may cut into their profits a bit. Apparently, the HSUS isn't ready to take on the heavy hitters - the high volume breeders which supply the pet store market. But barring them, the AR mantra of "One generation and out" is particularly resonant in this bill. And the HSUS supported it.

If you love animals and envision sharing your daily life with them, the HSUS is not your friend, nor is Mr. Pacelle. You can take that to the bank. He does not understand nor does he respect your bond with a domestic pet. "I don't want to see another dog or cat born," he said.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Tracy D July 14th, 2007 01:34:00 PM

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