Vet P.O.V. Animal terrorist alert! Wayward vet yields to a life of crime

December 30th, 2006  

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I don't know what to say other than UGH!

If the everyday person cannot say "Don't buy from a dog from a pet store!" certainly something needs to be done about PETA. They can burn down a business because they assume a person is selling fur coats only to find out later that said coats were faux. Doesn't that constitute as some form of terrorism? Or is PETA somehow exempt because they've been getting away with all their nonsense for years and play the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" game. Bah! People brains are fried....

Have a safe, happy New Years regardless of the idiots that we good animal people have to share this planet with.

Stacy December 31st, 2006 04:18:00 PM

Re: "Therefore, I must rationally conclude that this legislation seeks to curb previously permissible activities that may threaten the lifeblood of industries by revealing truths (or otherwise heightening public awareness of issues) that may prove economically destructive to them. It’s no wonder moderate animal and environmental groups like HSUS (the Humane Society of the United States) and the Sierra Club are against it."

Thank you for realizing that, because this has got to be one of the most unconstitutional pieces of drivel that have ever been passed with so much support. It creates a supercriminal category for persons who act on behalf of animals, where laws already exist defining legal and illegal behavior, as you pointed out. It also includes a very "grey area" pertaining to free speech activities that result in economic losses, such as a campaign to urge companies to cease doing business with enterprises revealed to traffic in Animal Cruelty, like Huntingdon Life Sciences, circuses, puppy mills, etc.

It also is emotional blackmail -- throwing animal advocates in the same pile as the likes of Osama Bin Laden with the word "terrorist."

However, you are in the minority in your profession, as the soulless AVMA supports this legislation. Can you do something about that?

http://capwiz.com/avma/issues/alert/?alertid=91366...

The AVMA is almost always on the wrong side of these issues, demonstrating that it is more attentive to its agribusiness constituents than to the animal loving public. No shocker there.

Total hypocrisy, the AVMA should be ashamed.

Stefani January 1st, 2007 08:12:00 PM

Stefani: See tomorrow's post.

Dr. Patty Khuly January 1st, 2007 11:29:00 PM

Did you just read the HSUS propaganda or did you actually read the bill? http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi...
If you actually read the final version of the bill, you will see this text:

"Nothing in this section shall be construed—(1) to prohibit any expressive conduct (including peaceful picketing or other peaceful demonstration) protected from legal prohibition by the First Amendment to the Constitution"

It goes on to add provisions exempting economic damage caused by legal actions from prosecution.

The ACLU, champion of the constitution, did not oppose the final version of this bill.

Have you read the testimony of people victimized by the animal rights extremists? Check them out:
http://www.vare.org.uk/
http://judiciary.house.gov/HearingTestimony.aspx?I...
http://epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=24...

The AETA was necessary because laws against trespassing etc. are local ordinances and these crimes are being committed on a national scale, planned in one state and perpetrated in the other. A national law was necessary to address the true national threat.

Joan G. January 4th, 2007 03:04:00 PM

I actually read the bill, OF COURSE. Where YOU aware that the disclaimer that you quote was added at the last minute, and is arguably inconsistent with language higher up in the bill?

I do not condone any kind of violence, but we have laws against that. My primary problem with the legislation has to do with the economic damages language.

EXAMPLE: I have a website devoted to raising awareness about veterinary malpractice and publishing public records on state board actions taken against veterinarians, to warn the public about quality of care issues at practices, with a local focus. I also tell part of the story of what happened to my cat at his vet's. In telling my story I rely primarily on quoting the public record of the state board's decision in my case, as well as my very clearly identified personal opinion.

If that vet loses $10,000 worth of business as a result of me stating that in my opinion this man is a negligent, careless practitioner, am I a terrorist?

The very thought of it sounds ridiculous, but it is unclear. The problem with legislation as internally inconsistent as this piece of legislation is that people wishing to prosecute will bring suits under AETA based on economic damages and leave it to the courts to decide whether or not the "free speech" disclaimer applies. They may even know that any judgment in their favor could be overturned on appeal, but do it anyway, because the suit itself is designed to stifle free speech. Now those who cruelly exploit animals have yet another tool to silence criticism.

Lots of crimes are planned in one state and perpetrated in another. Why treat these as a special class?

Stefani February 25th, 2007 02:48:00 PM

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