Vet P.O.V. Microchips are only as good as the people who register them for their pets…or fail to

April 12th, 2007  

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Two of my "kids" were microchipped by their breeder. When I got them, I sent in the little registration forms and the required money. They were done with AVID chips, and months after sending in the registration, I have not received any verification that they even received them, other than the fact that they cashed my check. It would seem logical these days to have a system ONLINE where chips could be registered, and pets' numbers could be checked in the event they are somehow "lost" like the yorkie in your post. Instead, you have to call their 800-number, and get the run-around rather than getting the info you need. OR you can contact them via the USPS. I think when I take the boys in to be chipped, we are going to get the girls re-chipped with Home Again, rather than even worrying about what AVID may or may not do with their system in the future. I certainly would not risk my girls' lives on whether or not someone has the time and patience to deal with AVID in an emergency.

Is Home Again any better?

Margaret April 12th, 2007 05:22:00 PM

Our four dogs are registered with Avid and I recently ALSO registered them with <a href="http://www.akccar.org/">AKC Companion Animal Recovery</a>. Got a nice quality stamped stainless tag to boot. The nice thing about AKCCAR is they'll register any chip maker's chip. One-stop shopping if you will. Following through on registration is important. Our local vet always swipes the chip area on every visit to make sure it's still there. Perhaps one approach might be to incorporate "Ah good to see a chip. Is this chip registered and have you verified your information in the last year with the registry?" patter into the visit.

haggis April 12th, 2007 05:53:00 PM

Sorry about the botched link.

haggis April 12th, 2007 05:55:00 PM

Ah, not to be critical- but if this dog was found yesterday, shouldn't there be ads placed in the paper, flyers made, the normal 'look-see' for the old owners? Although they failed to register the microchip, that doesn't make them uncaring owners at all. Unless your timeline is off- it seems rather quick to write off the original owners in a 24-hour time frame.

Trish April 12th, 2007 06:21:00 PM

all three of my dogs came chipped from the shelter. two i had to register, one was registered in the shelter's name. if one of their dogs gets picked up somewhere, they want to know it. i respect that. i think we have two avid chips and a homeagain?

we had two chipped pets come in the other day- one was a cat somebody found. the chip was registered but the information was out of date. the finder had post office connections and managed to track down the owner, who didn't want the cat back.

the second was a berner who was chipped but registered only with the akc car which none of us knew existed until the owner went home and called the breeder and then called us with the info.

elegy April 12th, 2007 08:32:00 PM

Our area uses Avid. I had no problem registering but I did it over the phone with a credit card. AND my vet has them all registered to him with the numbers on file so even if they aren't registered by the owner they can still be tracked down. The local shelter also chips and they are registered to them unless the new owner wants to pay the extra fee. So they can still be tracked as well. (same with the frenchie rescue I am fostering for)

I always recommend microchipping to clients so if they ever need to prove the pet is theirs in court they have solid proof. A photo just isn't going to cut it especially with purebreds. (or common looking mixed breeds)

I'll be sure to emphasis registering them as well now to be extra safe though.

I agree about looking for an owner. In my state it takes 7 days before they can be legally adopted by a new owner. I do imagine it would be hard to lose such a small dog but what if it had been stolen and then dumped? Boy I wish these guys could talk to us!

Marie April 12th, 2007 09:01:00 PM

I just had a great family adopt a kitten from me, and they refuse to microchip the cat because of "privacy concerns". I explained to them that it's not really a privacy issue, but they're adamant that they don't want the government monitoring their pets. I've been to the family's home a couple of times, and they're great owners, but it still bothers me that if this cat ever gets lost, it's probably destined to be euthanized at the pound.

I unfortunately didn't have any say in the matter, because this family found two abandoned kittens, brought them to me to feed (after they realized it was a lot of trouble), and then they even paid for all my supplies and trouble. One of the kittens died when it was four days old, and these folks paid for the vet visit. From day one it was understood that this family already "owned" the two kittens, so I wasn't in a position to insist on an adoption contract after-the-fact (and my vet wouldn't microchip the kitten prior to her leaving me, because she was too tiny). In the future I'll be able to anticipate this sort of thing, and make microchipping a condition of fostering, but it never crossed my mind that microchipping could be a privacy issue.

The family who adopted may come back to me when the kitten needs to be spayed, because I get discounts on spays. How unethical would it be for me to ask the vet to microchip the kitten but to register it to me?!? I guess I'd need to ask the owner's permission, huh? Fostering isn't always easy, for a number of reasons.

Leigh-Ann April 12th, 2007 10:28:00 PM

Sorry... I have one more thing to add.

Our local animal shelter (you may have heard of them: the Las Vegas "no kill" shelter which had to euthanize over 1000 animals recently because of disease outbreak), doesn't even scan for microchips UNTIL SOMEONE COMES IN TO CLAIM OR ADOPT AN ANIMAL. Isn't that the most insane thing you've ever heard? My vet lost a cat through her doggie door, and kept calling the shelter to ask if they'd found a microchipped black and white cat. They insisted they hadn't. After a few days, the vet just went down to the shelter to look for her cat, and there it was. She'd taken a microchip scanner with her, scanned the cat, and the chip was perfectly fine. The shelter just didn't bother to look for one.

I'm a great advocate of microchips, but as this story (and Dr. Patty's story) point out, the chips have no value in the hands of negligent or ignorant owners, or negligent animal control agencies.

Leigh-Ann April 12th, 2007 10:36:00 PM

My guys have AVID chips. I purposely did not register them. Until recently, I moved often. The way my vet explained it, it would be easier to track them to their vet's office, than to try to catch up to me. I agree.

Again, probably another perk to living in a small town and knowing people on a first name basis.

Agadore's momma April 12th, 2007 11:11:00 PM

OHMAGOSH I forgot... a post earlier said they kitten's family didn't want to register because of privacy issues. That reminded me...

I was at a park with the boys, and a lady and her kids came up to us and started oooohing and aaaahing over the dogs. At some point, one of the kids asked if the dogs had ever gotten lost... I mentioned their microchips.

I am not making this up. Their eyes all got this "deer in the headlight" look, and the mom started to lecture me about satan ...and that microchips were part of his plan.

It's good to know that my dogs have the same karma I do--GEEK and FREAK MAGNET.

Agadore's momma April 12th, 2007 11:16:00 PM

This may be the one area in which I give kudos to my employer: the hospital chain I work for implants two microchips, a 125kH and a 134 kH. Every hospital is also equipped w/multiple ISO scanners that will scan just about anything. I frequently scan and find Avid, HomeAgain, etc., in pets whose owners didn't even know they were chipped. When someone scans the chip implanted by my hospital (and since there's two, any scanner should be able to pick up on one of them), it shows the chip ID and a 1-800 # to call so that they can locate the owner - no registration necessary on the owner's part, as long as they keep a current address on file w/their local hospital. There's no need for the owner to send in money to register their pet, and if they move, all they have to do is call their local B*nf**ld and update their address info. Pretty nifty, I think, and only $30.

anna April 13th, 2007 02:52:00 AM

Dr. Patty - If a chip is sold to and inserted by a vet, the vet is the "sold to" party and, even if the pet owner doesn't follow through with the registration, at least the pet owner's vet office could be located. That's a pretty good start.

FWIW, AVID readers read HOME AGAIN chips, but not the other way around. IOW, if someone has the HOME AGAIN reader, it won't read AVID chips. Many vet offices don't know this. (Mine didn't.) My dogs all have HOME AGAIN and I have nothing but good things to say about them.

Also, some animal controls do not even scan for chips. (True!) A city near me does not. Very scary.

On a happy note, the chipped dog of a friend of mine got out of his fenced yard a few years back. She discovered that he was gone shortly after he was left out of the house. After an hour of frantic phone calls and searches, she got a call from animal control -- they had picked him up and had identified my friend from the microchip. So when the system works, it works well.

Deanna April 13th, 2007 08:09:00 AM

Another failing of the chips are the companies that input and keep the records. I have heard of several horror stories where the name, address or phone number was entered incorrectly by employees at the chip company. If you do have a chip registered, make sure you check the registration carefully and that all of your information is accurate.

Jennifer April 13th, 2007 11:09:00 AM

Trish--no worries. The new owner understands she's basically serving as foster parent for the moment. An ad in the local paper and fliers are already in the works--or so she says. Truth is, it's her responsibility. But I always let people know that an ad in the paper is free and the staff here is always full of ideas on how to locate lost owners.

Dr. Patty Khuly April 13th, 2007 02:04:00 PM

Some of my dogs were microchipped by their breeder(s). I don't chip the rest; they are tattooed and registered with one of the big tattoo registries. They wear a plate on their collar with the number. The county I live in has no animal control, so if lost dogs are not recognized by the sheriff, they are sent off to the next county, which is notorious for not scanning for chips (even though a new city law just went into effect requiring chips) and for not giving the dog the required three days. Anybody who finds one of my dogs can read the tattoo and call the number on the collar. They do not need a scanner.

I have two dogs from Canada and the CKC requires that all puppies be identified by either chip or tattoo. Mine are tattooed in the ear.

Funny, I have also gotten the lecture about Satan and microchips. I kept flashing back on the Church Lady.

Nightmare April 13th, 2007 03:10:00 PM

Home Again vs. Avid? I personally don't care too much either way but it stinks that Home Again readers can't pick up an Avid number. I know the pet's got a chip but...

on a separate point, I wish we had adopted the international standard for pet microchips instead of going with this isolated technology. As it stands, I have to implant yet another microchip for my international pets because our readers can't always pick them up--and we can never get the numbers.

I love the idea of a separate entity for registration...just in case. My recommendation has always been to call the 1-800 number to be sure they have all the right info. Pretend you've just found your own pet. That works.

As to the policy of not checking a pet's chip until they've been identified by their owner--that's the most sorry, bone-headed practice I've heard of. What's wrong with those people?

Dr. Patty Khuly April 14th, 2007 07:33:00 AM

I have 5 cats and they are microchipped. I really like this, especially for my special needs kitties that require daily meds.

Another thing to remember is to provide an emergency contact number when registering the chip. My local shelter registers them in my name and theirs. The copy my vet has on file includes a contact number besides me. If I was traveling with my cat and was in an accident and couldn't speak/communicate, at least the emergency contact could be notified.

It would definitely be nice to have a universal chip and scanner that worked on all types of chips from all different countries. Hopefully that won't be too far in the future.....

Carolynn April 14th, 2007 11:38:00 AM

I 'thought' that the newer scanners, with all companies, read any chips. I could be wrong though- it happens ;) ;) ;)

And I'm glad that the pup is being fostered- of course, chances are- the new Mom IS the new Mom!

Trish April 14th, 2007 08:10:00 PM

My cat got an Avid chip in Canada. Then I moved to Europe and they couldn't get a reading at the vet's. They told me the chip probably sort of... erhem... disappeared... I was told this happens sometimes. Then I had my cat chipped again.

Oh dear, I suspect my cat might have *two* chips now, plus a tattoo and a collar with a tag. I guess he's covered for all eventualities.

But having two (or more?) systems for something like this is just stupid.

Oh yes and for the last cat I had chipped the receptionist filled out the paperwork and kept the original, giving me a copy. They told me they send all the paperwork in now, to avoid the pet owner forgetting. I thought this was rather good.

Kirsten April 16th, 2007 08:56:00 AM

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