Vet P.O.V. Miami-area makes headlines with HSUS’s first class-action lawsuit against a puppy mill purveyor

June 20th, 2007  

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It's interesting how you post about this. It's not the subject matter that surprises me, I just find your timing ironic.

After 2 attempted pet adoptions that went sour on me ( the dog was dog aggressive and the cat I mentioned the other day hates other cats. I had to find out these pieces of information out the hard way. Bring them into the house only to find that they were not as nice as the people said they were... ) we settled on getting a kitten who is being a total attention hog as I try to type this and we have a Yellow Lab puppy coming in August. The puppies are due today, so I'm waiting for a phone call or something from the breeder.

After Taz was bitten by the dog and Tool was traumatized by a freak of a cat, I decided that I've had more than more than my share of "basket case" animals. Mojo ( the kitten) is adopted & neutered, so I'm not a completely vile person in terms of pet adoption / rescue.

To my point...

My vet got word that we are getting a Yellow Lab through one of her techs that I speak with frequently. Her message that she passed on to me through her tech was " Make sure she doesn't buy a puppy from that A--hole in Abington. I don't know what this guy does to his dogs and when I tried to get more details all I was told was that his dogs are genetic nightmares and not to buy from him.

I'm not buying from him. We're actually going to have to drive a good 45 minutes to get the beast, but it will be worth it as she's coming from a excellent breeder.

When I bring Mojo in next week for his shots, I'm going to find out the deal on this particular breeder and find out what she refered to him as "A--hole". It's not like her to do that, even the people she doesn't like, so whatver this guy did, it have been really, really bad.

Stacy June 20th, 2007 04:18:00 PM

A "good 45 miles" of driving is nothing. My two young retrievers came from, respectively, Texas (I'm in California) and (wait for it) ... SWEDEN.

In a rare breed, it's unlikely you'll have a reputable, responsible breeder "in the neighborhood." Actually, it's not all that common in common breeds. You'll have pet stores and crappy quick-buck breeders, but you'll going to have to do some looking around and asking questions to avoid the "a-holes" you were warned about.

Good luck with the new pup!

Gina June 20th, 2007 07:07:00 PM

Thanks Gina.

I wanted a English Lab which apparently hardly exist anymore.

All the Labs we see around here have short legs, narrow heads and are, beyond hyper... even the fat sausage like ones. They act like they have no brains between their ears all the time. After some searching and asking lots of questions I finally found what I was looking for.

I won't mind bringing our new girl for a swim, running her around the yard with toys or even bringing her down to the the canal for long walks, but she should be able to hold a thought in her head for more than 2 seconds at a time, unlike all the one's that we see around here that are said to be the best Labs around.

Sure they are...

Stacy June 20th, 2007 08:12:00 PM

I see a huge part of the problem as one of impatience. So many people want a puppy and want it NOW. A reputabe breeder most often has a waiting list. And they have rules. Limited registrations and required altering. I'm in Maine and my last two akitas came from Oklahoma. (though I do know some great akitas breeders closer) I flew to Ohio to get my frenchie. (from a breeder that does mucho health testing on her dogs) It was worth every extra penny. Which you gain back in normal wellness vet visits down the road.

Then there are the impulse buyers. I know someone that went to the mall for a dress and came home with a shiba puppy. (with a horrendous temperment)

Teaching people what reputabe means is step one, and trying to exlpain WHY they need to be patient is step two.

Marie June 22nd, 2007 08:06:00 AM

Marie: That's an uphill battle. I also know people willing to ship a dog from anywhere, believing that if it comes from elsewhere it must be great quality. I think they also like saying their pet had been "flown in from X." Huge "teacup yorkiepoos" and nasty temperaments are the least of the problems I've seen from too many of these. Sad.

Dr. Patty Khuly June 22nd, 2007 08:53:00 AM

Even when you try to be responsible, you can be duped. Five years ago, I wanted a Vizsla. First I tried to go through Vizsla rescue. Seven months, a few leads but nothing in the end. So I contacted some breeders. Unfortunately by this time I was anxious for a dog. I found a breeder that had a litter coming soon. I asked all the right questions and he gave all of the right answers. I really felt he was a responsible breeder that cared about his dogs. I put down $100 deposit and waited 10 weeks. He even e-mailed pics with cute pups in grassy fields.

So finally, it's time to pick up the pup. My husband (then boyfriend) and I rent a car and drive seven hours. We stay in a hotel and go to the breeder's address in the morning. As we pull up we get an uneasy feeling as there seems to be a helluva lot of barking going on. Sure enough, there is a barn that we are not invited into that is quite large and quite loud. There are also a number of pens with many, many Vizsla barking. He brings out the pups and of course they're adorable and we've spent hours and lot of money to get here. So, we buy him.

I've changed my ways since then and will never "buy" a dog again. I volunteer at an animal shelter and will get a rescue dog next. I hate to admit to that day five years ago. I was too weak to make the right decision and walk away. I did pay for it...my dog had mange and he has severe thunderstorm/firework/wind-blowing anxiety. But I do adore him.

Kelly June 24th, 2007 12:38:00 AM

I worked for a largre kennel. Wasn't sure what the business was all about. There is a saying in their world...'What goes on in a Kennel stays in the Kennel". This was considered one of the better ones. I have seen some I wanted to nut out and let all the dogs free.
Any, so it goes, there are so many pups that soon they are just breeding with whatever will be cute and sell. No worry down the road as they don't have to deal with it.
I did small quality SharPei and they were my babies. They did without nothing, but most of all, they had love and playtime and even knew what a home was. They sure never got dropped from the upper cage of a sundowner. That is where a few of the mental ones come from. They many be so called "PureBred", but how far are they inbred or linebred to get that thick coat and THE look.
I waited 2 years for the Male for my small breeding. It was set up ike a big kennel, only right by my house and I montiored every little thing, but they knew what life in a family would be like as they were part of a family. My Yorkie even taught them the rules of being nice to little furry animals. I never had any cat or small dog killers come from my pups. The one thing I observed and lived is, if you make money, the big money some speak of, you are not doing the dogs right. The old Quality Control thru Quanity. No one person can give 10 or more litters whelped close to the same time the attention they need. Some of the mamas are just wrecks from bieng on wire and in an area way too small for even one dog, much less a mama who needs a break from their babies. I know, I am a Mom and if stuck with my kids in those conditions, I would probably eat them also. I know how it all works and that is why when I bred the breed of my passion, I got the best quality and kept it small like a family. Maybe In didn't make the big money, but I sure have some great pups who are doiing therapy work and have the joy of watching them grow and make people happy.

Jo June 24th, 2007 06:37:00 PM

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