Vet Stress When clients don’t pay their vets…it really hurts

June 21st, 2007  

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Here Here! Good Job, you have much more gut than I. (I hate confrontations) I wouldn't dream of benefiting from services without paying. Maybe they need to go to work for a week and then have their boss say, "Oh, yeah, sorry, I needed to buy copy paper, so I can't pay you until later next week!" They would never stand for it and that is essentially what clients do when they don't pay when services are rendered.
Good for you.

Brenda June 21st, 2007 10:25:00 AM

I don't know Dr.Patty... I think you need a vacation that involves lots of cabana boys to serve you drinks, a stack of good books to read, and some peace and quiet in a area that is declared as a "idiot free zone".

There is one type of person that a pet owner should never mess with and that's their vet. It's okay to agree to disagree with them, but walking out the door without paying the bill is a really big no-no in my book. And not even discussing the issue up front just makes the situation all the more vile IMO.

Stacy June 21st, 2007 10:39:00 AM

Wow, I knew it was hard to get some folks to pay, but didn't realize HOW hard! This makes me appreciate my own vet's actions of two weeks ago even more - I racked up an ongoing bill over the course of several days, as I was in and out trying everything we could think of to save my greyhound. In the end, nothing worked and we had to euthanise my hound, but throughout the whole thing he and his staff were so relaxed about the money end of things that it really did make an awful week easier. And as a relatively new client to him, I appreciated his trust in letting me leave each day with my "tab" still open, rather than having to settle up and spend each night freaking out about how many pennies were left in the dog emergency account.
I'm heartened to hear that you'll provide emergency care even if the client can't pay a dime - I've met vets who won't. Good for you!

Stacey June 21st, 2007 11:16:00 AM

Gotta love the outraged indignation that usually accompanies the refusal to pay. Hey, at least she acknowledged the obvious -- that the health of her animal improved thanks to you.

Deanna June 21st, 2007 12:37:00 PM

The ER vets I've gone won't even talk to you until you've given them a credit card number and they've verified it has some credit left on it.

After my shepherd lost his battle with cancer, the office manager offered to not charge me for the care that he received that day, plus the cremation expenses. I didn't feel that was right to not pay them for all the work they did for my boy, so I paid the bill in full.

RKolosky June 21st, 2007 12:45:00 PM

DrK-
I have had my kiddos get hurt when I was a couple days before payday. I had just started back with a previous employer, had moved, and was living paycheck to paycheck. It had been less than a year after I had filed bankruptcy (became a federal employee, moved for job, then feds cut us all to part-time--gotta love the gov). Anyhoo-- took my boy to our vet.. had about 50 bucks to last three days. Vet bill was double what I had. It mortified me to ask for special treatment- I asked them to hold my check for three days. They did- they do it all the time they told me. I didn't like being in that position, but my dog was in pain, and if I had to, I would have washed their toilet to pay the bill. Seems like people who have their priorities set are able to be responsible--one way or another.
I know I have met your unpaying owners.... we all have. Unfortunately, these are the people who work the system, who abuse the kindness of good hearted people until their kind hearts turn hard. I don't know who I feel more sorry for- you or her "pets"(and I use that term loosely).
I agree with a previous poster,tho.. cabana boys and cocktails!!!!!

agadore's mama June 21st, 2007 01:12:00 PM

Do you call the police on these people? I would, but that's just me. If I honestly believed they were going to pay me back, I wouldn't. But if they didn't, it's literally stealing and they should have to pay in one way or another, to realize that you can't just take someone's services, just like you can't walk out of a store with a sweater.

Shannon June 21st, 2007 07:35:00 PM

Here's to the 1/10 who do pay when the vet lets them go on a payment plan. You guys are the best! cabana boys sound good to me, too. Bring 'em on.

Dr. Patty Khuly June 21st, 2007 08:51:00 PM

The one time I had to take a pet to the ER, they gave an estimate of minimum costs up front, and required me to pay I think half of it up front. This paperwork started while they were fetching an intern/tech, and was completed before she saw an actual vet. Each day they gave me an updated bill and had me sign off on half of that.

zandperl June 21st, 2007 09:12:00 PM

People never fail to amaze me.

Services rendered require payment. It's not a huge mental leap. I just picked up my youngest feline today from his neutering appointment, and yep, I paid the full $200 (neuter plus boosters plus claw trip plus ointment for conjunctivitis).

One time I had a vet bill me (from another state -- long situation). The minute that invoice arrived, I wrote out a check, put it in an envelope, stamped it, and set it in the outgoing mail pile.

It went out the next morning.

AmandaJ June 21st, 2007 09:16:00 PM

uh... "trip" equals "trim".

Eye kan spel.

AmandaJ June 21st, 2007 09:19:00 PM

Does your clinic work with CareCredit? That wound up being a great solution for the hospital I go to. Previously the hospital had given people income-based discounts and payment plan options, but it added a huge level of bureaucracy and created a burden on their administrative staff. Both staff and clients (the responsible ones, anyway) rejoiced when CareCredit essentially took over that function. The only thing the staff have to do on the financial end now is process the applications (and of course accept payments that are made at time of services). I know the CC interest rate is astronomical once you get beyond your grace period, but having some interest-free time to pay off a bill is an enormous help. And from the vet's perspective, I assume you get your payment from CC right up front, so you're no longer part of the payment process if things go wrong.

Regina June 22nd, 2007 12:41:00 PM

I'm just stunnned - it never occured to me that people would do that to a vet. I know they'll do it with their own healtcare providers- I was a midwife for years and got stiffed quite a few times (one mom told me they couldn't make the payment on her new Mercedes and pay for my services as well...) but doing that to a vet??

I'm a single mom of four, we have a very small monthly income, and still the boys all eat and get new shoes and the pets all get great care from our vet. I can't understand what kind of person would behave like that, and I'm sorry you have to put up with that.

Cindy June 22nd, 2007 08:33:00 PM

We had new client who left their very ill cat with us overnight, and also took home $20 worth of product....odor remover, etc (not necessities). The next day when she came in to pick up the cat, she was mortified that we actually expected her to pay! She gave us the usual excuses: She was behind on all her other bills, etc (you can fill in the blank here).

My biggest gripe is why she took home all the other items too (our new receptionist should have known better than to let her). I mean, it's one thing to stiff us, it's another thing to stiff us and blatantly steal items off our shelves when you have no intention of ever paying for!!

Michelle S. June 23rd, 2007 12:13:00 PM

On the CareCredit thing: Sure, it's great, but I've found that the people who don't have credit cards don't have the credit to qualify for CareCredit. But that's just my experience.

Dr. Patty Khuly June 23rd, 2007 09:41:00 PM

I think if you can't afford them, don't have them. We have 4 and they are expensive. Our vet is probably the most expensive in the area, but, we want the best for them.

Last week on Monday it was over $800 and then on Thursday she cost us another $200 plus. It hurts sometimes, but I think they are worth it and I think my vet is worth it.

I joke that we should have our own parking space though!

Kelly June 26th, 2007 05:55:00 PM

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