A few days ago, The Miami Herald carried a story on our neighboring county’s new ordinance: Declare a dog “dangerous” after his first offence. Reserve the right to euthanize after the second go-round. This is Broward County’s solution to dogs who kill cats or dogs—or who bite humans.
If such legislation were aimed at owners, I’d be far more sanguine about its enactment. As such, I have a hard time grappling with the knowledge that my parents’ dogs might have been euthanized long ago if we lived in Fort Lauderdale instead of Miami. That’s because these dogs have killed cats—lots, unfortunately.
Granted, none of these cats was owned by anyone (that we know of). Sure, they were all killed in the dogs’ own back yard. But none of this makes a difference if your neighbor gets a whiff of a dead cat in your dog’s maws—regardless of which side of the fence the cat is on.
The Broward legislation came to pass because one concerned citizen made the claim that three of his neighbor’s pit bulls had killed his cat as she sat placidly on her own front porch. The massacre (horrific, I’m sure) was caught on the cat owner’s security video. The dogs were since relocated by their owner (who judiciously elected to move after his dogs got loose and killed a lawyer’s cat). Let it suffice to say that the cat owner’s understanding of County government and the dog owner’s choice of breeds conspired to give this law its legs.
I don’t know how common this scenario is, but my own experience adds credence to the cat owner’s complaint. As a kid, one of the neighbors’ dogs—one of a perennially loose sort—killed our “wanted stray” right by our front door.
Still, I don’t consider pet-killing dogs necessarily dangerous. I tend to consider their owners more so for letting them roam or escape. My own childhood situation notwithstanding, I also find some measure of fault with owners of cats who allow them to reside out-of-doors (even if only occasionally and on their own property).
After all, if you tally up the quarry a cat tends to kill in a week—and the neighborhood cats some felines abuse through territorial disputes, you’d have far more “dangerous” cats to dispose of (assuming we considered wildlife worth protecting and expensive injury to other felines redressable). Again, our outdoor cats get a pass (for reasons I’m loath to fathom).
These pet-killing, “dangerous” pets are usually exercising their instinctive behavior. They are animals, after all. And they are attacking animals—appropriate behavior for the predatory species we know them to be. They can’t properly conceive the damage they do with their limited cognition. So when they inflict harm it’s [almost always] because their owners have been irresponsible—to a degree.
In my experience, 90% of pet-killing dogs do so because they’re enticed by the prey-aggression appropriate to their species. Only 10% are truly aggressive human-attackers. Among these, even, how many are fear aggressive and allowed to exercise their faults due to the irresponsibility of their owners.
Sure, human-attackers may deserve a two strikes rule, but pet-killers? They deserve a two-strike rule aimed squarely at the owner—in the guise of a hefty fine or jail time (after multiple offenses). If you can’t prove your pet-worthiness, your continually irresponsible pet-keeping deserves redress—and not by punishing your dog for his instinctive behavior.
Maybe I’m totally off-base here, but people are the problem in 99% of cases. Our dogs? They’re just being dogs.
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THANK GOD!!! Finally an opinion that is based on common sense! I have my two guys- a standard poodle and a pit bull..they are quite the pair. They are best buds. And while neither has a mean bone in their body, they would both kill any small rodent they would have the luck to catch. No, they aren't mean..like you said they are dogs. Like I've said before... I used to have horses... I wouldn't leave a child unsupervised with them, nor would I put one down because I got stepped on. And the bite thing- again- more common sense is needed. Our local animal control, thank goodness, has brains. When they investigate a dog bite, 9 times out of 10 it's brought on by teasing. The dog is put up for the mandatory rabies quarrantine, not put to death.
Agadore's momma July 3rd, 2007 11:37:00 AM
One of my dogs killed a deer once. We were in a fenced in horse pasture and the deer decided to commit suicide and it jumped over the fence and INTO the pasture IN FRONT OF MY DOG. We had to call the DNR to remove the deer, and they said we weren't at fault since my dog was contained properly. Can't imagine what would have happened to my dog in that county!
Oh and btw, said dog is the biggest mushball you'd ever see with people. He just has a high prey drive.
PS: That was the worst day of my life. I promise. And I can't look at deer anymore. Like, not even pictures of them.
Great Dane Addict July 3rd, 2007 02:38:00 PM
Yeah, it's pretty dumb to hold the dog responsible in these cases. Id hope that any future types of laws would prevent owners of these animals from owning pets until they demonstrated some measure of competence. Of course with the prey drive issue, sometimes that's hard to control. I have a Springer Spaniel and she will absolutely murder any small lizards/rodents/birds that she can get a hold of. Of course, she is a hunting dog and bred specifically for flushing and retrieving game. I live on a canal, which means we have muscovy ducks everywhere, because of course everyone feeds them and they breed like jackrabbits. If it were up to me I'd let my dog loose on them, but I can imagine what the general perception would be from my neighbors.
Chip July 3rd, 2007 05:13:00 PM
My daughter and I took in a dog advertised in the newspaper. We lived on a small non-working farm, everything fenced in. The dog was a husky/something mix, very playful and obedient to us, though only a year or so old. But an elderly neighbor came to me in tears one day saying the dog was coming onto his property and others almost daily, stalking and killing their cats, at first kittens then adult cats. I finally found where the dog was getting under the fence and off the property and fixed it, but he then began digging under the fencing which was set quite deep in the ground. I did have him put down because of his persistence, because he started with kittens and then on to adult cats, and I worried that he might graduate to small children. The vet I took him to suggested euthanizing him and that's what we did. My daughter and I were extremely upset for weeks, but I felt I had no choice other than to keep him on a chain, which I really despise.
Peggy July 3rd, 2007 06:13:00 PM
I know this is somewhat controversial, but I don't understand letting cats roam anyway. Dogs, raccoons, traffic, other cats defending their territory...you wouldn't let a small child roam the neighborhood, why would you let your pet?
Diane July 3rd, 2007 08:40:00 PM
I always think the same thing when clients gasp at the cost of abscess treatment, subsequent FeLV/FIV testing, fracture repair, etc., for their outdoor roaming cats...."you know what's free, people? keeping your cat indoors..."
Snarky, but true.
anna July 3rd, 2007 09:22:00 PM
I don't think that killing cats means they are likely to graduate to humans, by any stretch of the imagination... even small humans.
When I was young my grandparents, who lived on a large property, had a yellow lab. Sweet as pie with cats, kittens, other dogs... but god forbid you be a rabbit or a woodchuck. She started with digging out nests of baby rabbits while watching us (the grandkids) fussing about in the pond, then caught a few wild rabbits while on hikes,.. and eventually killed several groundhogs. She lived to be 12 and never laid a tooth on a human.
I am currently dealing with our adopted dog and her prey drive. She is good with cats, good with dogs... but she is terrible about birds and squirrels. When I was visiting my parents she ran out of the front door (which is abnormal behavior for her) and killed one of their chickens. The rest of the time we were there, and ever since, she has been impossible to get under control when in close proximity to any bird, poultry or wild. She stays on lead.. but all of her commands go out the window and you might as well be talking to a rock.
This very dog is great with my friend's child (age 1.5) and another child (6 months) although this is, of course, a supervised interaction. At the dog park children pet her and she is very mild mannered with them, even laying down next to them for cuddles.
Domesticated dogs, as much as we like to think otherwise, are a species with perfectly normal instincts placed into an artificial environment. While I agree that measures need to be taken to protect the rights of other people's pets... I think it is foolhardy to argue that killing another domesticated animal makes a particular animal 'vicious' and worthy of destruction.
I love cats. Where we are moving has a barncat that comes with the house, and my first act as a homeowner will be to get her spayed, get her shots and healthcare, and make sure she has a place inside to sleep at night as well as plenty of food.water. HOWEVER, I understand that being unable to make her an entirely indoor cat I will be taking the risk that she will leave the property and be harmed.
Which would be my fault.
However, my choice is that or take her to the very overcrowded shelter system in that city, with a notoriously bad kill rate for cats. Oh, and she's all black and not a kitten. Not a great selling point to many potential adopters. So, unless another option comes along I will give her the best I can and hope for the best.
So, I agree with Pat,.. why must dogs be policed more harshly than cats? Why are they being targeted? Cats also have an impact- killing songbirds and spreading disease (mostly in ferals- think the recent rabid kitten and other horrors... fiv, etc)
Jenn July 4th, 2007 01:04:00 AM
so if a cat comes onto your property and your dog kills the cat despite the fact that all of this is happening on the dog's property, the dog is still the one in trouble? how does that stand to reason? keep your cat on your own freaking property.
if the dog is killing cats on the cat's property, then i'm all for holding the dog's *owner* responsible.
i am quickly frustrated by the idea that animal aggression translates into human aggression.
elegy July 4th, 2007 04:21:00 PM
It happened in my back yard again last week. My two boys began to bark in an unusual manner; together and unrelenting. I went out to see what the problem was. They had, once again, cornered a cat in the shed. Luckily for the cat, it didn't try to run. Neither of the dogs were attacking, even though the cat was in reach. They apparently just didn't like the cat in their territory and were being very vocal about it. If the cat HAD run, it would probably have been a different story.
So, if the story WERE different, if I lived in Broward, and if the neighbor behind me, who feeds the stray cats in the neighborhood, were to report an attack by my dog(s) on one of the minimum of twelve strays that wander through my yard to reach his feeding station, my dog(s) could be held criminally accountable, regardless that they are fenced, neutered, tagged, vaccinated and certified as animal therapy dogs. Interesting. Twisted, but interesting.
John July 5th, 2007 02:42:00 AM
For now, I'll take anyone/anything being held accountable for overly aggressive dogs. We tried for two years to get Animal Control to do something about the extremely dog-aggressive pit bull next door. Typical story - someone who should never own a dog gets a pit bull puppy. Leaves it out tethered on a chain in the rain its first year. When the barking and crying get out of control, neighbors' calls to Animal Control manage to get the dog living indoors and off the chain. But by now she's mannerless, unsocialized, unhousetrained, and extremely aggressive to dogs living on the borders of her back yard.
She came out from someone else's backyard, under a fence, and across the street to attack my dog when I was walking him past her house to get to mine next door. We survived only because a male neighbor was able to back her off long enough for us to get inside.
Animal Control called again and they fix the hole in the fence and supposedly control her.
The tiny little chihuahua across the street one day escapes his yard and is crying at his front door. She hears it and when the opportunity arises - the owner just opens the front door to do outside - she streaks past him, crosses the street, and attacks the dog, who died of his injuries a few days later. Unfortunately, that family doesn't follow up with Animal Control.
Then, of course.... wait for it... they breed her.
And she gets even more aggressive. She starts attacking the thin wooden fence between our backyards trying to get at out dog to kill him. I carry something big and very hard to break over her head if need be every time I let the dog out to do his business. Animal Control is useless because she hasn't hurt a human.
Yes, they were responsible for that mess from beginning to end. But once they created a monster dog, she should have been at least removed from their care and most likely could never ever be trusted in a home. Once they've created that monster, the monster has to be dealt with somehow.... it's just disgusting.
I have very mixed feelings about dogs who kill cats... mine are all indoor...
Natalie July 5th, 2007 02:46:00 AM
You must be kidding! Dogs who kill are acting instinctively and should be forgiven, but cats who
also kill and also act instinctively should be kept indoors. Why not keep all dogs indoors,
using your logic or, rather, illogic?
The Broward County dangerous dog law is, admittedly, draconian, but the incident that
inspired it is not a lawyer's trick but the response of someone who rightfully recognized
that those dogs who killed his cat were on someone else's property, whereas his
cat was on his own front porch. The cat had a right to be on his owner's property; the
owner has a right to keep his cat (or any animal) anywhere he wants on his own
property.
As for cats being dangerous animals, duh, no domestic cat has ever killed a human being, AFAIK,
and no cat has ever killed a dog, AFAIK. Cats go after birds and rodents, but even the best
mousers are much more successful with rodents than birds. My hunting dogs get twice
or three times as many birds in a year as my great mouser cats do in their entire long
lifetimes.
Dogs belong on their owners' properties or taken off those properties on lead. If not,
then it's a crap shoot. The law that should be enacted and enforced is a leash and
confinement law applying to ALL pets, but if any domestic animal should be allowed
roaming privileges, it could with no threat to the community, much better be cats
than dogs.
Roberta Pliner July 10th, 2007 04:31:00 PM
Roberta: I'm sorry if I led you to believe that dogs with irresponsible owners (who let them off leash out of the confines of their property) should be exonerated. I believe I'm consistent in remarking that all pets should be confined and controlled. Sure, cats don't kill people but that doesn't mean they should be allowed outdoors unsupervised--for their health (disease, accidents, cat bites, etc.) and for the sake of our environment. It's a well-established fact (see audubon.org) that songbird populations decline more precipitously with the influence of predators like cats, regardless of what your own cats and dogs might do in your care. And finally, a cat sitting on someone's front porch is still an "uncontrolled animal." In general (depending on the cat and owner's circumstances, of course) I'd consider this owner less responsible than one who keeps him indoors, but that in no way exonerates the owners of dogs who are free to roam and attack pets or people.
Dr. Patty Khuly July 14th, 2007 11:42:00 AM
Last year two pitbulls ripped a cat apart in my front yard, in front of my eyes. It was horrible. Those dogs returned every day looking for more cats to kill. We have indoor cats. We also have a porch that our cats like to hang out on. The pitbulls tried to bash the door in. Do you know how scary that is???? We had to put our hurricane shutters down on the windows as we worried what would happen if the pitbulls saw one of the cats in the window. This went on for months and there was nothing that could be done because of lack of laws.
I know that all dogs are not like this. I realize our particular pitbull issue was because of irrisponsible owners and most dog owners are not irrisponsible. But if you ever find yourself living near (three blocks in our case) irresponsible dogs that are allowed to run lose and kill at will, then you will understand why some of us think this is a good thing. If people act responsibly and keep their pets home where they belong, then they really don't have to worry about their dog being labeled dangerous.
cat July 25th, 2007 06:40:00 PM
Actually, cat, even if you do "act responsibly and keep your pets home where they belong," you really <em>do</em> have to worry about your dog being labeled as dangerous. If they are a pit bull in an area where they are banned.
Sarah September 4th, 2008 03:49:00 PM
Someone please help! My neighbor’s dog was in my yard aggravating my 2 dogs, while being provoked one of my dogs pushed the gate open and escaped. The two dogs began to fight in my yard, unfortunately the other dog, a Yorkie did not make it. I am at my wits end!!! They claim it was in thier yard when it was not. After seeing my dog escape I ran out and stopped the fight, my dog let go instantly however I have a Staffordshire terrier and she is 66 lbs and the other dog was very small. This was a horrible accident but with the new law they will put my dogs down since the neighbors can’t seem to get their story straight. We are talking a matter of inches, now how can they kill them for a matter of inches. If anyone knows a good attorney that can help me I would be very interested. These are my kids and taking them away is wrong. I feel horrible about what happened and paid all the expenses for the vet. The neighbors have even claimed it was not our fault and the Animal Control has even said they are not dangerous but with the neighbors constantly changing their story my dogs still sit on DEATH ROW. Please help me save my dogs!!!
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