Vetcetera Hamster [and small rodent] toys and their tots: Are they cruel?

December 5th, 2007  

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I too, sadly remember the hamster (s) that wwas part of my sister and I's youngest days as pet owners. I completely agree that a hamster (or any small pocket pet, rodent or otherwise) can never be a perfect first pet for young children unless the parent is willing to pretty much accept responsibility. I can't say that we starved our little gal ( in fact I'm sure we had the goldfish syndrome of feed feed feed), but I do remember taunting Kitty Kister when the hamster was rolling around the house in the ball that was covered in urine inside (poor little thing) (god, really drudging up the past here) :(. Kids are kids, some are mean and some aren't able to acknowledge (age related, surely) that the little fur ball is a living breathing creature that must be cared for.

Sure the little racecar is cute and I bet its cute to watch the hamster 'drive around' but cruel? Yes, I think so, but just as cruel as dressing up a chihuahua in a Mad Max outfit.

Amanda H December 5th, 2007 08:59:00 AM

I have had similar thoughts. The small pet should be allowed out of the cage to wander in a safe area, not shut in a ball with its own feces to be batted around. I think some small pets can be good with children if appropriately supervised but would lean more to a pair of rats.

emily December 5th, 2007 09:46:00 AM

Thank you for revisiting - I was VERY surprised you recommended such a "toy." It's marketed as fun for the little creatures, can you imagine? I don't think humans would like to be in a big plastic ball for hours, wondering how to get out, and every time you move, your prison rolls with you.

I had a friend as a child that had one of these and she frequently would roll it down the stairs. 20 stairs, at least. Over and over. That was part of the torture she inflicted on her animals, but I was always horrified. "See, he's fine!" she would say.

NOT good ideas for children, indeed.

Anna December 5th, 2007 09:53:00 AM

I have always wanted the habitrail large enough to cover trips around the house (punch holes in the wall to get tunnels through), but realistically, with all the cats, I can't imagine it being a good thing for the hamster at all. So we're working on making more pathways for the cats to get around.. which is just as fun and fits the pets we have.

Georg December 5th, 2007 11:32:00 AM

I dunno, in the proper household the hamster NASCAR could be a great enrichment item. While growing up, one of my sibling's hamster rolled its hamster ball behind the toilet and we were unable to find him for almost two days--limiting their rolling to a track might be a good idea.

You can't blame a child's inability to care for (or a parent's unwillingness to properly supervise the care of) a rodent on a toy.

abc December 5th, 2007 03:24:00 PM

"You can't blame a child's inability to care for (or a parent's unwillingness to properly supervise the care of) a rodent on a toy."

True.

But OMG! 2days?? Was he OK?

Dr. Patty Khuly December 5th, 2007 04:40:00 PM

I don't think that is the only issue. I am just unable to see how being in a small semi-translucent sphere or cylander could be very enjoyable. It seemed to me that the animal rolling all around in the ball might be trying to escape rather than enjoying the experience.

emily December 5th, 2007 04:40:00 PM

I also wonder if the little critters "playing" in these devices don't suffer from motion sickness at times. I know I would if I was in a similar human-scale toy.

Alison December 5th, 2007 08:25:00 PM

I wonder if you could strap monitors on the animals in these devices, to test heart rate and other readings, and find out if they are in fact stressed.

Mind you, when I had guinea pigs as a child (and rabbits), we would let them out of the cage for a run around in a fenced area outside (although they are not the easiest animals to catch to return to their cage later). And fed them mostly on grass we picked for them (which took them quite a while to eat).

How much of this is for human entertainment? I am also thinking of clothing for dogs and cats. I am sure most animals would be happier without wearing clothes, unless it is a cold day and they live outdoors.

Robin December 5th, 2007 09:16:00 PM

even though I work in Grooming, i often get asked about the hamsters, gerbils, and recently, the ferrets our chain has started carrying. and every time someone with a small child asks to hold a ferret, i warn them:okay, but just so you know, they are pretty nippy at this age. they don't bite to hurt you, it's just something they do, but they're really not the best for young kids'. i dont care how many blustering specialty associates I annoy by doing this... these pint-size puffballs aren't like the Playschool version of dogs and cats.

a person's a person, no matter how small :)

charity December 6th, 2007 01:27:00 AM

I never had pet hamsters. All my friends got bit by theirs. I had pet rats when I became a teenager, and never put them in any rolling ball of any sort. If they wanted to run around..they did it; free of plastics and with the cats and dogs put up. I don't know if children shouldn't own them for pet ownership, I think it depends on the child -- especially to prepare them for need I say..a golden retriever??

ashleigh December 6th, 2007 07:39:00 AM

Yes, he was just fine after 2 days stuck behind the toilet, thank goodness. At that point we were looking around the yard, thinking he had somehow managed to roll out the door.

Emily, I never really got the feeling that he was trying to escape with his little ball, and he always jumped right into it happily when we took him out of his cage--even after the toilet incident. We knew he was ready to go back in his cage when he stopped rolling to groom himself (something stressed animals don't usually do). Of course, we didn't have any other pets running loose in the house to terrorize him and we didn't roll him down stairs or bowl with him.

Even rodents need enrichment, and though it might not seem like fun to us it's probably a lot more interesting than sitting around in a tiny cage day after day.

abc December 6th, 2007 08:39:00 AM

I had 2 hamsters when I was a kid. First a domestic short hair female (she lived to be 2, but she was full-grown when I got her) and then a teddy bear boy. I LOVED my hamsters, I was crazy about them in a Beatrix Potter sort of way. I drew pictures of them and everything. They never bit me and I carried them all over the place. Benjamin in particular was a real snuggle bug. I never put them inside plastic balls, I tried it once and he pee'd all over the place- which told me (as a kid!) that he was scared. So, no more ball. Often times I slept with him all curled up in a blanket on my pillow, but, since they are nocturnal- I often found him cruising around the house in the morning. He had a good life, they both did. Benjamin lived to be 4.
So, I just think it depends on the kid. If I ever had a kid or one of my nephews that had a small pet and they harmed it in any way, or even handled it in a way that made me uncomfortable, I would lose my mind. I would have a firm zeor-tolerance on this issue.

Amy in Somerville December 6th, 2007 08:57:00 AM

It may well be more interesting than being in the cage, and the animal is less likely to get lost. I opt for just letting them out as they are...

emily December 6th, 2007 09:04:00 AM

Being "more interesting than the cage" shouldn't even be a justification for it. It's still BORING. If that's all the enrichment you can offer the animal, you're not doing a very good job.

Anna December 6th, 2007 10:01:00 AM

What makes you so sure that rolling around in a ball is boring for a hamster?

abc December 6th, 2007 07:46:00 PM

Interesting topic! I think for some hamsters rolling around in a ball is perferable to staring at the same plastic walls day after day. It definatly would be considered enrichment (of a sort) for those ones. Provided of course no stairs or cats are involved.

It is to bad they don't sell environments better suited for them in the first place. There was a great episode of "Barking Mad" (an British training/animal behavior show) that addressed the issue with a nipping hamster and built him a wonderful species appropriate habitat complete with dirt to dig in. They also taught a proper way to handle him. No more nipping and a much happier hamster. (and happier owners!)

I guess rolling around in a toy is again another issue that depends on the specific situation.

(I always prefered pet mice myself. :-)

Marie December 7th, 2007 06:29:00 AM

Marie: I'd love to find that episode! Wouldn't it be more fun (and instructive for children) to create better living environments for small rodents. To that end, I still stand by the other small rodent toys I offered in my initial post on the Hamtrac. Chewing toys that are also attractive (and offer hiding solutions) seem like they might be more humane solutions for them.

Dr. Patty Khuly December 7th, 2007 08:44:00 AM

Guess you wouldn't approve of Hamster K9 soccer either...<g>
http://www.mainetoday.com/pets/dogslife/004244.htm...
I think our hamster (rip) liked his ball, but I NEVER let the kids use it when I wasn't there, and even then only for very short durations.
-nancy

nancy December 7th, 2007 04:03:00 PM

Nancy: I love the disclaimer: "no hamsters were harmed in taking these photos." Hee-hee. I'm glad you supervise.

Dr. Patty Khuly December 9th, 2007 09:21:00 AM

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