One of the biggest stumbling blocks in the battle against pet overpopulation is the whole issue of spaying and neutering cats and dogs before they get out of shelter environments. It’s both morally unconscionable to me as a vet to let these pets get out of sight before ensuring their reproductive dead-endedness and understandably a mite troubling to have them assume the potential health risks that may attend such early spays and neuters.
Knowing that most humans require spays and neuters pre-packaged with their adoptions (because they might otherwise mess up in their humanness and unwittingly allow an animal to procreate) makes this conundrum all the worse. Though I hate to assume people will be people just as pets will be pets, there seems no better way to deal with the problems unspayed, unneutered pets present than to eliminate the problem outright—at its source.
Prepubertal castration (the medical term for spays and neuters done before the typical six-month puberty window opens wide and allows canine and feline behavior to have its way with the population controls we might otherwise wish up on them) is now widely advocated by the veterinary shelter medicine community as one of our tools for limiting reproduction among shelter graduates.
And we’re not talking three or four months old, now. These are babies as young as six to eight weeks, even. Thankfully, these guys do very well when vets are trained in the specialized techniques designed to effectively and economically (more so than for older pets) remove the offending gonads.
Nonetheless, the practice is not without its controversy. Seasoned vets schooled in the standard six-month time-frame have major reservations about the safety of such a procedure while the public screws up its face and says, “That kind of early surgery seems a bit over-the-top, now, doesn’t it? I mean, they’re just tiny babies!”
Some of my clients are justifiably angered over the procedure as well. Last week one of my clients brought in her two year-old shelter rescue whom she adopted as a 10 weeker. They refused to grant her the choice of having her vet do the procedure at six months in a higher quality facility with more careful anesthetic monitoring. No way. Now her dog has urinary incontinence and she wonders whether the age of the procedure contributed. I wonder, too.
Yet vet protectionism of a bread-and-butter procedure may well factor into the safety concerns some vets complain about. (Yes it’s true that we do fewer spays and neuters now that this practice is more widespread, but I think naysayers on this front are an increasingly small percentage of vets.)
And where the public is concerned, it’s also true that vouchers for future spays and neuters just don’t seem to suffice. It’s a reality that significant percentage of well-intentioned but less responsible adopters will always slip through the cracks.
Moreover, given the limited resources of shelters, the lower cost of these early spays and neuters seems to justify this timing, even if a higher percentage of problems could theoretically result in later years (urinary incontinence in female dogs, as in my previous example).
Overall, conserving resources so more pets can be spayed, neutered and sheltered takes precedence over the relatively low risk and low-ish malignancy of potential health concerns surrounding prepubertal castration.
So what’s the controversy all about?, I have to ask. On balance, it seems a no-brainer...for a shelter. What’s your take?
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I have to agree with the conclusions of Margaret V Root Kustritz DVM, PhD, DACT in that great article you sent us all from Decembers JAVMA. Her conclusions were:
1. Animals housed at humane societies should be treated as a population. They should be spayed or castrated before being offered for adoption.
2. Pets should be considered individually, with the understanding that for these pets, population control is less important than is health of each animal.
3. All male cats not intended for breeding should be castrated.
4. For female cats and male and female dogs, veterinarians and owners must consider the benefits and detriments for each animal.
These all make perfect sense. In a big humane society of shelter it just makes sense. In a breed rescue you have a lot of leeway.
My best early neuter is story is this: I got call from a local vet -i won't share the story-i don't want anyone to get in trouble but it resulted in the vet being told to put this lovely young gorgeous lab-golden mix to sleep. The vet refused and had the client just sign the dog over to him. His staff called me and we raised the money to pay the bill. This vet was wonderful only charging for what he himself had to spend money on and it was during the Frances-Jeanne hurricane time and this pup remained boarded over there until we could find him a home.
I really felt this little guy had a lot of potential and found an owner who not only wanted him for his personal pet and he would live in the lap of luxury but also wanted to do some service dog training for his wife who was ill with a chronic condition.
Just a wonderful home. The man who adopting had terrible reservations about this dog being neutered prior to six month and wanted to wait untill about nine months because the golden he had before had horrible hip problems.
I spoke in length to his veterinarian who not only vouched for this guy but promised me to sign in blood that this procedure would take at nine months or when the veterinarian felt was appropriate.
About a month after Indy went to his new I got a frantic phone call from his new dad who was frantic because Indy was humping everything and everyone in site. and he said "would you mind- I made an appointment to get him neutered. Again I told him he needed to discuss this with his veterinarian and together I'm sure they make a decision that was right for everyone.
Indy got neutered. His humping behavior went away. He is a beloved boy and service dog to this couple and every year on the anniversary of his adoption I get a thank you note and a check for our rescue and a big thank you.
After reading the article that Dr Root Kustritz I wish I had waited a little longer than the six months that I did with my own two goldens. They both have a few issues that I think could been avoided.
Thye issue with a humane shelter - I believe Root Kustritz is correct in her conclusions that all shelters must spay/neuter period end of story or else they are at risk at repopulating themselves.
cyndi January 8th, 2008 09:05:00 AM
I am not sure how shelter animals can be treated a population and pets an individual when between intent to adopt and release the animals is both of these things, psychologically speaking. Even if there is a sharp transition compulsary spaying has consequences for it successs as a pet, positive and negative.
I fully understand the shelter workers perspective but think that sometimes there needs to be a concerted effort to collect data about the downstream consequences of all of these strageies from spaying to temperament testing.
emily January 8th, 2008 09:44:00 AM
Until there is conclusive evidence that these health issues are a direct result of prebubertal castration I support it. Dogs become incontinent and have joint issues every day whether neutered early or not. In my personal experience with 4 cats done as kittens I haven't found any difference in their health, behavior or physical characteristics. People are not trustworthy when it comes to having their pet neutered in a timely fashion so I feel it is necessary to have that taken care of before they leave the shelter. In a perfect world it would be great to wait but unfortunately that leaves the door open to even more unwanted animals.
Jules January 8th, 2008 09:53:00 AM
I don't know how rescues can in good conscious adopt out animals that haven't been spayed or neutered. I had a roommate who got a beagle from an animal rescue with a spay neuter certificate. Her mother had a male beagle who wasn't neutered, and my roommate's beagle became pregnant on her first visit to the mom's house. Unfortunately, my roommate was able to sell all the pups and decided not to spay the dog. I should have taken that dog to my vet and gotten it done before she moved out. Who knows how many puppies that little dog has given birth to by now?
I don't know much about spaying and neutering before 6 months (all of my dogs were over 1 when they got spayed/neutered b/c they were strays), but I can just can't imagine that pets aren't healthier overall if it's done early instead of taking the risk that it's not done at all.
Jen (SLC) January 8th, 2008 10:32:00 AM
My mother adopted a kitten before I was born. She was told that it wasn't healthy to neuter the animal when it was younger than six months and that the vet wouldn't do it, so she held off. At the six month date she dutifully took Teeny in to be spayed, only to be told, to her dismay, that Teeny could not be spayed as she was now pregnant. My mother cared for the cat throughout her pregnancy, raised the kittens, and found each one a loving home, but it was not something she had ever wanted to do. Teeny was fixed as soon as my mom could get her in after the birth. The point of this story? Even people who are very serious about pet population control and who are not lax about getting their pets spayed may contribute to the overpopulation problem given the current standards.
Becky January 8th, 2008 10:56:00 AM
You may have seen this paper before, but it's one of the best that I've seen in terms of discussing the health risks and benefits of spaying/neutering (particularly early spaying/neutering):
Long-Term Health Risks and Benefits Associated with Spay / Neuter in Dogs
http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffec...
The paper does make it clear that it's only about the individual health risks/benefits for the dog in question. It does not attempt to justify either way whether dogs in shelters should be altered early or not.
My personal feelings are that shelters really have no choice in the matter, and need to spay/neuter before animals are adopted out, simply because otherwise there will always be people who will not follow through. On the other hand, for someone who buys a dog from a reputable breeder or maybe even a rescue (where they're usually much more picky about who adopts), I definitely think it should be up to the owner (and breeder/rescue as applicable) when to spay/neuter. It's definitely possible to keep a dog from breeding if you're careful about it, and for those people who really will be responsible about their dogs, I think it's the best to let them make the risk/benefit decisions.
Janine January 8th, 2008 11:00:00 AM
Becky,
There are spay-abort procedures available, that some vets will undertake. So it is still possible to spay a pregnant animal and not contribute to overpopulation. If this is a serious concern for the owner.
Many people own intact animals and if they are careful and responsible (for example supervising bitches and queens in season) they do not produce unwanted litters. You keep the queen indoors and supervise the bitch when she is outdoors, and if necessary separate from other household pets. It's only a few weeks of inconvenience versus a lifetime of potential health problems.
emily,
I agree that when the goal of shelters is adoption-as-pets, the animals there should be given the same individual consideration that already-pet animals get. Unless the goal of shelters is to act as population control facilities. What their actual goals are, is certainly debatable.
All,
I do not support mandatory or thoughtless spay and neuter, it is unwise to chose an elective surgical procedure based solely on the current circumstance of a homeless animal. Much like I do not support blanket rescue group policies on adoption (no renters, no children under 14, etc.), or breed specific legislation.
Every animal and home is different and each deserve individual consideration, especially until more research is done to show the pros and cons of pediatric s/n considering both animals in general and the health and well being of specific breeds in particular.
AdoptedAPBTs January 8th, 2008 11:37:00 AM
If this is a double post, blame the software.
The shelter I got my now-aging cat from when she was four months old, sent underage pets home with a spay/neuter certificate from Friends of Animals, good for the cost of one routine spay or neuter, at any of a fairly large number of area veterinary clinics, a list of which was also provided. This shelter still does this; they've found it works. The cost of the certificate is included in the adoption fee, the surgery is already paid for, and the adopter doesn't have to worry about whether or not the shelter's vets or the spay/neuter van practices the kind of standards they want for their pet. Often you can use your own regular vet, and if not your own, one that some friend uses and is happy with.
Of course, this is in the northeast, where spaying/neutering is pretty strongly regarded as normal pet-owning behavior, anyway.
Lis January 8th, 2008 12:25:00 PM
I have seen quite a few studies showing at least some empirically demonstrated negative outcomes of early neutering. Not so massive as to make the matter a 'no brainer' but the data is there. I recall a recent study in JAVMA. I think it would be wise to look at that research before being sure negative outcomes don't exist. For almost any procedure there with be pros and cons as a matter of course.
p.s. I find the anti-spam letter damned hard to read sometimes. Is that just me?
emily January 8th, 2008 12:52:00 PM
My shelter bitch was spayed as an adult (somewhere around a year) and she was incontinent by two. It's just one of those things, I think.
From what I understand (and I'd certainly believe it in this area) follow-through on animals adopted out by shelters who are on contract to be spayed/neutered but not actually altered is dismal. People just don't do it. And as long as there are so many dogs/cats/kittens/puppies ending up in the shelters, I absolutely support the shelters in their speutering of baby puppies and baby kitties. Do I think it's necessarily the right thing for each individual pet? No. But there's no way for shelter workers to know which owner will follow through and which one will allow their pup to breed, spay/neuter contract or not.
katie January 8th, 2008 12:54:00 PM
I am NOT for a mandatory spay/neuter program for all animals, that said however, I support a rescue/shelter's right to prepubertal castration on their animals. And can see the benefits it offers on overpopulation (not necessarily the individual). However, many people who adopt from rescues/shelters are doing so specifically to fight pet overpopulation, so I don't see the conflict. Any person who adopts from a shelter where they practice early spay/neuter should have done their research and know that there is a chance for some later problems. Some people never experience problems, others do. Of the ones that experience problems, some would have experienced those problems anyway, regardless if their pet was spayed/neutered later. With a living animal you can do everything "right" and still have problems.
Jess January 8th, 2008 01:41:00 PM
Thanks for the great conversation, so far. For theose of you having software trouble or captcha trouble, you are not alone. It's gotten better but I'm still working on it with my techie peeps.
Dr. Patty Khuly January 8th, 2008 04:31:00 PM
If incontinence, etc., are significant risks of early spaying/neutering, it sounds to me like from the point of view of the animal, that this is NOT in the individual animal's best interest. It may be in the best interest of humane treatment of the domesticated species as a whole however, so these must be weighed against each other. I'm not sure at what level of risk to the individual I would consider the tipping point between doing it and not doing it though; probably that is a matter for the shelters themselves to decide - as they have been doing.
zandperl January 8th, 2008 07:28:00 PM
I think that Emily has a very good point that shelter animals between intent to adopt and release are both pets and part of the shelter population. I know around here, the shelters with high adoption rates generally spay or neuter before making animals available for adoption, which somewhat avoids this issue.
As I mentioned in my comment yesterday, I just had my new shelter dog neutered by MY vet with special permission. As a new pet owner, there are a number of advantages to having surgery done under your control. I was able to have hip and elbow x-rays done ( a concern for APBT's, his predominant breed.) I asked for and got a report from the tech on the exact state of his teeth and any areas that might require extra care. (If needed, I could have had his teeth cleaned at the same time, but we knew they were in general good condition.) If I had adopted an intact female dog, I would have had her stomach tacked to prevent bloat. Around here at least, shelter and discount spays are done using a slightly different procedure that leaves a uterine stump - my sister's dog ended up having the stump get infected years later and having to have a second surgery to remove it. (This may have changed now that the vet school has a required shelter medicine rotation, at least at the Oregon Humane Society.)
That said, this isn't just about me and my animals. It's about the community good (of which we are a part.) I completely agree that if a shelter doesn't make sure the animal is spayed or neutered when they leave their care, the risk of it not being spayed or neutered is too high. On the other hand, I think that organizations need to have a process to make exceptions. A potential adopter who has the kind of relationship with their vet that they want them to do the surgery should have that option (but requiring vet references and an appointment isn't at all unreasonable, nor is charging an extra fee or deposit to deal with follow up issues.) There should be exceptions available for animals with health conditions that might make surgery too dangerous or might be improved by spaying or neutering later in life. And, we really need more research on the effects of spay and neuter at different ages. However, I firmly believe that the risk of breeding too young or too often on an individual queen/bitch or of running off after queens/bitches in heat all the time are greater, in the general case, than any possible risks of early spay/neuter. If everyone was responsible about the animals in their care, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
Juli January 8th, 2008 07:43:00 PM
Our shelter standard is currently that any animal over 16 weeks of age is spayed before leaving the shelter. Younger animals leave with a spay/neuter date already in place before they leave the shelter. If they are a no-show, they get a phone call and new appointment. If they fail to show up a second time, our animal-control officer appears on their doorstep and confiscates the animal (legal because they have violated the terms of the adoption contract). However, that may soon change. Today (my volunteer day at this shelter) we did a spay and a neuter on 10-week-old littermates who each weighed less than 3 pounds. We do have a full-time vet (who is also a Penn grad, BTW, and a gifted surgeon). He has been quoting recent studies (and I can't say from where or provide a link---sorry) that say that spay/neuter can be safely undertaken if the animal is over 1 pound. I do believe that in a shelter setting, population control has to take precedence. As stated in previous comments, any surgery at any age can have bad consequences; and as a whole, from a shelter standpoint, early spay/neuter works best for us, to help control that overpopulation.
Shellie January 8th, 2008 10:08:00 PM
I can't help but think there has to be another way. I don't have any in-depth knowledge on the matter in medical terms. I am very PRO spay/neuter, and as Lis mentioned, I live in an area where it is considered a natural part of pet ownership. But I can't help but be concerned about tampering with little bodies that are not anywhere near being developed. And what about Tiny breeds? I mean, you might have people performing spay/neuters on dogs or cats that weigh less than a pound, and to me that seems dangerous for the animal.
IMO, it would make sense that a pre-paid voucher program would be an excellent course of action. But, the reality most likely is that people still just won't do it. Then, you'd have shelter staff needing to implement a "we'll literally come pick up your dog and take care of it for you policy" and that would not be logistically and financially feasible. There's most likely not even funds to do a mailing reminder, and that is depressing.
I mean, most people have cars, right? And most people get a little mailing or email that says "it's been 7,000 miles, time for your oil change/tune-up" and I bet 95% of people show up for that oil change/tune up. But wouldn't respond to a reminder to maintain a pet's health. I know that sound terribly pessimistic, but my guess is it's true. I understand the shelter's need to maintain their population control beliefs in the most feasible and efficient way possible, but it does not seem to be in the best interest of the animals.
What is the current system for most shelters that are not using the spay/neuter at infancy program? And is it not working?
Amy in Somerville January 9th, 2008 08:57:00 AM
I don't think incontinence is a recognised issue of early spay neuter right now, the concern is more with bone growth and delayed growth plate closure. But then the incontinence issue is a tricky one with potential input from a lot of factors, even tail docking.
emily January 9th, 2008 09:06:00 AM
Amy: Yeah, there should be a better way. Problem is, people will be people. And shelter euthanasia is still *by far* the number one killer of dogs and cats in this country. Looking at the pros and cons in this light might help make a creepy situation easier to swallow.
Dr. Patty Khuly January 9th, 2008 09:32:00 AM
Dr. Patty....I agree. A Pro/Con list would tip in favor of the program most likely. If this is what needs to be done to keep the pet population under control, then so be it. But, I feel like it's almost a lose-lose. In that, it's not the best option for the animals in question (health wise), and it puts more guilt on shelter workers that are already under so much strain and pressure to cause compassion fatigue. I know they are doing what they feel is best, but a part of them must resent that it's come to this, ya know? Maybe I'm wrong.
If only all humans could be trusted with the welfare of their animals.
Amy in Somerville January 9th, 2008 11:25:00 AM
The idea that all or nearly all pet owners are too irresponsible to keep intact dogs is hard to reconcile with the facts. Are there too many dogs and cats killed in shelters in America? Yes, some 3-4 million a year, of which over half are for population control. This happens even though 70% or so of dogs and 80-90% of owned cats are spayed/neutered in America.
Now let's compare this to other counties. Great Britain, with a population of 60 million people, kills fewer than 8000 dogs a year in its shelters. California, with a population of 36 million people and probably better shelter stats than most of America, kills 150,000 dogs a year in its shelters. Now you might guess from this that spay/neuter must be a lot more common in Great Britain than in California. If so, you'd be wrong. Fewer than 30% of dogs are spay/neutered in Great Britain even though it has a a shelter kill rate some 30 times lower than we have in America, where we have a much higher rate of spay/neuter. There are other countries in Europe where spay/neuter is even less common, even some where it's considered unethical, and still they do not have anything like the shelter killing rates that we have in America.
Spay/neuter has been given way too much credit for its ability to impact shelter statistics.
Laura January 9th, 2008 05:44:00 PM
Laura: Your statistics don't add up. You mention the number of people in the country vs. number of dogs killed, rather than total number of dogs in both countries. If that were known, you could compare the percentage euthanized both here and there to percentages of fixed animals. I think it's a rather moot point, anyway, because animal welfare culture is much different in the US than Europe (or anywhere else, for that matter). In Poland, when I was a kid, a method of population control was to put newborn kittens or puppies in a sack and drown them. I bet you our euthanasia rates were very low... because euthanasia was just about as unheard of as s/n (and still is much less common - just drive to the woods and tied the dog to a tree and leave). I knew plenty of my parents' friends who had bitches and queens who gave birth after every heat, without intent to breed. Who knows what happened to the puppies, but it completely throws s/n comparisons off kilter.
Agnes January 9th, 2008 08:17:00 PM
Agnes,
The UK is pet crazy. They have ALOT of dogs and pet ownership rate is high. They also have alot less open countryside than the USA to abandon animals in. I doubt that Britain's euthanasia rates are lower because they are tossing millions of kittens and puppies in the river.
I don't have time to look it up now but I have seen the numbers for California vs the UK and they have more dogs in a comparable geographic area.
Laura is also right that s/n is considered to be elective and in some cases barbaric in some European nations. Aquaintances of mine currently living in France, the UK, and Switzerland are in a state of disbelief over the furor and frothing going on in the USA over s/n.
Yes, there are EU nations with serious animal welfare and shelter population issues. But it is interesting that Switzerland and Sweden, which have the lowest rates of s/n, also have extremely low rates of euthanasia. QxkjjRk0
I personally believe that most people are best off altering their pets. But the the fact that some countries are able to achieve very low kill rates without reliance on s/n as the "big gun" means that other forces, such as education and social pressure to behave responsibly, are at work.
That's GOOD news, because it means that there are many different ways in which we can explore and attack the problem of unwanted pets here! Spay/neuter is not a cure all. My rescue is seeing more and more altered dogs every year. Two of the four cats dumped at my house in the last few years were already fixed! So looking at what is working elsewhere is important. The pet market is driven by demand and people will get a pet if they want one. We need to look beyond 100% reliance on s/n and educate those pet owners willing to learn so that they can become more responsible and keep their animals, responsibly, for life.
JenniferJ January 9th, 2008 09:34:00 PM
Agnes: Shelter impound and euthanasia rates are commonly reported as a function of human population size. I didn't make up that convention. But if you'd prefer it in terms of dog population size:
UK: 6.8 million dogs, 7743 dogs killed in shelters annually
USA: 61 million dogs, 1.4 million dogs killed in shelters annually
This works out to annual shelter kill rates of:
UK: 1.1 dogs killed per 1,000 dogs in the population
USA: 23.0 dogs killed per 1,000 dogs in the population
Meanwhile, the percentage of dogs who are spay or neutered is:
UK: 28%
USA: 72%
So you see, Americans kill dogs in animal shelters at a population normalized rate 20 times higher than they do in the UK, even though a lot higher percentage of our dog population is spayed and neutered.
Spay/neuter is not a magic bullet to massively reduce shelter kill rates. It can help in some cases. But it is not going to save animals if we overrate how much spay/neuter can do. It's a distraction from other proven life-saving efforts.
As far as dog breeding and owning practices, I've spoken with a number of people in the UK about these data and none of them have supported your view that tens of thousands of dogs are being left out in the countryside to die there, or that tens of thousands are being killed in buckets of water or by other means. Sorry, your "theory" is baseless.
On average:
About 50% of all dogs impounded in USA shelters are killed
About 14% of all dogs impounded in UK shelters are killed, which is very close to meeting the criteria for "No Kill" established by the No Kill Advocacy Center (i.e. fewer than 10% impounded are humanely euthanized).
Rather than pass judgment on people in the UK, how about thinking about what we might do better? People in the UK think many Americans are irresponsible in our "throwaway" mentality about all things. I don't blame them.
Laura January 9th, 2008 10:03:00 PM
Jennifer J wrote: "But the the fact that some countries are able to achieve very low kill rates without reliance on s/n as the "big gun" means that other forces, such as education and social pressure to behave responsibly, are at work... That's GOOD news, because it means that there are many different ways in which we can explore and attack the problem of unwanted pets here! Spay/neuter is not a cure all."
Well said.
For those who haven't read it yet, Nathan Winograd's new book "Redemption" discusses proven methods to reduce shelter killing, and also some of the forces that have been holding back progress in America. The book will make you angry at times, but overall it has a very positive message.
Laura January 9th, 2008 10:28:00 PM
Laura, I'm confused. I don't see where Agnes references the UK at all or mentions 'tens of thousands' of dogs being tied to trees or drowned in buckets.....I only read her story of her situation growing up in Poland. You also mentioned her passing judgement on people in the UK and I am not seeing the UK mentioned in the 8:17 post.
I'm not asking to be snarky, I'm truly wondering if there was a post that was deleted?
Amy in Somerville January 10th, 2008 08:53:00 AM
I made a post about lower shelter kill rates in Europe with Great Britain (UK) as an example where spay/neuter are relatively uncommon, and Agnes posted that my point is "moot" "because animal welfare culture is much different in the US than Europe"a and went on to describe an inhumane "culture that is much different" of killing dogs by drowning them or leaving them out in the woods to die, based on what she'd seen in Poland. The implication is that all that killing would mask low shelter kill rates. My point is that she cannot dismiss my point as "moot" on account of what she saw in Poland, because that is not the culture in the UK.
Laura January 10th, 2008 11:33:00 AM
My take on this is that the source of the pet is *chosen* by the person buying or adopting the pet.
By making a choice to get a purebred puppy from Joe Blow who sells pups raised underfoot with his kids for $250, or from a shelter that places the pets at $75, or a designer breeder that sells littermates to Paris Hilton's latest small dog for $25,000 -- that buyer or adopter is agreeing to the price and terms of the placement.
No one is twisting their arm.
Perhaps they are electing to obtain an animal with unknown genetics, uncertain maturity size or de specialized breed character and unknown temperament. They have no idea why the parent may have been abandoned, had a litter at large. Was it temperament, genetics? Who knows. No one is twisting their arm. They are choosing their source from which to get an animal.
The shelter, like puppy mills, does not keep records of how long the pets they place survives, nor if it will develop phobias, incontinence, chronic health and behavioral problems. While shelters do not keep data and seem to feel free to promote the idea that there are no negative consequences for early neutering and neutering in general, people that obtain animals from them made that choice.
The shelter has every right to do pediatric neuters on the animals that they place, just as a breeder might do the same or alternately require that the pet be evaluated as it grows, neutered after it has performance, orthopedic and other soundness tested after two years of age. Most pet owners don't want to be bothered with contracts, or any responsibility pertaining to the preservation of their breed -- by testing their dogs and adding info to the breed database. A customer that wants a well bred dog from temperament tested lines with good working ethic are going to choose the source appropriate for them. They could just as easily get a pet for free or $800 bucks from the local newspaper and do the right or the wrong thing.
It is the buyer's market.
Generalized, mandated, mandatory spay and neuter of most pets from all sources is a very bad idea. Neutering should be encouraged, but not made mandatory.
Why? The fact that people even ask, staggers the mind. Science and logic fails most of our population. Most people seem to sleep through science courses and anything to do with genetics that they might remember, has to do with white, red and pink sweet peas and has no application to real life.
AB 1634 and its clones, epitomize this bland stupidity and appalling lack of education.
Picture this. Promoting the idea that only registered champion show animals are healthy and of superior genetics and should be the only dogs allowed 'breeding licenses' --
AS IF -- this can be discerned in the show ring in the 2-3 minutes that a judge has to eyeball a dog or cat. This is a dangerous genetic and logical fallacy which promotes narrow gene pools, popular sire syndrome, loss of protective alleles -- in short is one of the reasons why some of our canine genepools are in serious trouble.
This degree of quality cannot be discerned in pediatric animals. Occlusion goes off, orthopedic problems sometimes develop, sometimes there are problems with the endocrine system. There are breeds where certain colors are likely to win in rings, but these dogs are heterozygotes for certain traits. That means healthy breeding animals are not always "show quality" and many excellent champion producers could never be champions themselves.
There is nothing controversial about that.
Many who actually have an education and didn't merely repeat third grade nine times, will realize this. ;)
Shelters should decide for their own placements, just as other keepers of animals should decide for theirs with their Veterinarians.
The State and MSN promoters are largely not qualified to practice veterinary medicine. primum non nocere - do no harm.
Semavi Lady January 11th, 2008 11:26:00 PM
I am a heretic when it comes to the 'pet overpopulation' meme. I don't see any evidence of it.
When I visit shelters I very rarely see pups much younger than 8 - 10 months of age. They are usually large, male, untrained and rather exuberant. They were mishandled when young and find themselves at the SPCA. I have adopted a couple of these big lugs over the years and while a handful at first, they make great pets.
Sterilization compliance is very high in N. America (I'm in Canada). Most people get their pets neutered as a matter of course. Visit a clinic, it is promoted.
I'm not against it per se, but most experienced dog people I know suggest waiting until full maturity before neutering. In a large breed such as a Rottweiler, this can be two years or more.
Health and temperament issues with sterilization such as bone cancer, growth plate abnormalities, incontinence, cognitive dysfunction, increased territotial aggression, nuisance barking, excitabiity and increased activity in males, a greater tendency to bite in females, have all been studied.
Am I against it? Not at all, my pets are neutered. Do I think it needs more study? Definitely - this is not benign surgery.
Emily's point about the gene pool is excellent. Part of the problem with purebreds is that about 150 years of line and inbreeding has done a disservice to the more popular breeds and to dogs in general. Why deliberately shrink that pool, unless the goal is the planned extinction of the domestic dog? All purebreds were mutts at one time.
There seem to be large commercial breeders (millers) making money by selling tens of thousands, if not more, puppies to brokers or over the internet. People are buying them so how can there be a pet overpopulation problem?
I believe that pet overpopulation is the invention of the shelter industry and the animal rights movement. Mandatory juvenile sterilization is an invasion of privacy and property rights. It must be resisted.
You cannot tell if a dog has show potential before the age of four months. You certainly cannot decide whether a dog is suitable for agility, flyball, herding, guarding, etc, at that age. Why should a bureaucrat decide who gets a permit, which breeds get a permit to reproduce? Do you really trust them that much?
Are there problems with negligent owners? Definitely. Are there unprincipled breeders? Yes. Are there unwanted pets? Yup.
But there always will be. Statistically, I doubt things have changed much in the past 50 years - there are a lot more people, that's all. In fact, if anything, I'll bet more people are adopting from shelters today than they were in times gone by.
Just my opinion.
Caveat February 25th, 2008 09:19:00 PM
I know of a shelter that won't let unaltered puppies go without a $250 refundable deposit. Once the animal has been spayed/ neutered they give the deposit back. According to the shelter owner only one person has failed to follow through with the alteration. She will pay to have her vet do the procedure when the animal is ready. It is an interesting way to deal with the problem, but seems to be effective.
Calichis April 7th, 2008 02:11:00 AM
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