Vetcetera Feral frenzy in Florida: Trapping cats and training people

June 18th, 2008  

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In PA, he wouldn't be considered liable because cats are still considered "wild animals" under the law (there was a famous case where someone stole a purebred cat from a breeder, who under PA law couldn't do anything about it because technially, she didn't "own" the cat -- it was "wild")

He needs to check with a FL lawyer -- if he does "due dligence" which I would think means "tells folks not to feed them" (although I wouldn't be nasty about it - just protect yourself by telling folks not to feed them -- and especially not in front of you -- and then let it go) and does TNR (which keeps things safe and maybe even gets them vaccinated, I would think he's covered -- he's dealt with resident complaints and done all he can to keep everyone concerned safe.

But if FL law doesn't actually believe that people own cats (which could be different in FL since most of the oriignal Colony states are based on English Common Law and the livestock laws tend to reflect 17th century beliefs), he may be free and clear regardless and then he can just do TNR and be done with it.

Dorene June 18th, 2008 10:21:00 AM

Wouldn't this be a (sorta) violation of the lease if there is a "no animals" rule? If tenants are feeding animals to the point where it's a problem, seems like it could be construed as "harboring" an animal, and he could discuss their behavior in light of the terms of their lease...

Just an idea...I'm no lawyer, but I dated one once. hee

Shasta June 18th, 2008 01:34:00 PM

Aughh! People feeding intact feral cats to be "kind" is a huge pet peeve of mine. If you feed, trap-alter-release. Period. Kind hearted individuals feeding ferals just help make more ferals. More food means larger litters, more survivors, more cats. And more population fighting for resources, sharing space, sharing disease. More adult toms means more kittens killed by these as well. This was the situation when my husband moved into his office. Dead or dying kittens or juveniles was not uncommon in the parking lot.

We immediately began TNR and it has been very successful, with a small relatively stable population of mostly now middle-aged or elderly cats. Newcomers arrive from other neighborhoods and get caught fixed and sent back out. Many do not stick around after such treatment and maybe the return to their original haunts. The "residents" are mostly now semi-approachable, lazy and fat, although still not tame enough to be pets.

But about 5 years in a woman across the street began buying and dumping bags of cat food in a nearby vacant lot. She thought our method was cruel and that catching the "babies" was horrible. Cats, mostly teenagers probably displaced from their own neighborhoods by competition came flooding in. The result was a bumper crop of kittens followed by a bumper crop of sick juveniles and adults and a lot of hours by one of the therapists at my husbands office and my husband too (I was sick and pregnant at home) spent catching the starving, dying kittens and their parents.

I always tell people that feeding a well maintained TNR colony is fine, but feeding intact feral cats simply perpetuates misery. If you're not willing to do TNR please please please don't feed!

JenniferJ June 18th, 2008 02:20:00 PM

I meant to add that this is certainly one place where community out reach by local governments and shelters would be fantastic. Teaching business owners and home owners alike about TNR would be a huge public service. ESPECIALLY if they also provide support for TNR colony caretakers and also help out with low cost s/n clinics too.

My county is trying hard to get this ball rolling, neighboring Sonoma County has been very proactive in this area so maybe it will become the new trend? I can dream.

JenniferJ June 18th, 2008 02:25:00 PM

As they say,no good deed goes unpunished, I have been participating with our local humane society in a feral TNR program. They reiieved a Petsmart grant and I have been doing the Spay/neuter at quite a discount from my regular fees. I use the laser and take a genrous ear crop to be able to identify these cats later. I have received phone calls and one nasty letter questioning my "compassion and professionalism" for this "mutilaiton" of these cat's ears, and requesting that I only make a small nick. they claim this reduces the adoptability of these cats, like they were adoptable anyway. I already had one cat presented in a trap with "small nick" that could not be distinguished form a fight wound. fortunately for him I was able to palpate him through the cage grate and determine that he was a neutered male without having to anesthetize him.

Hobson June 19th, 2008 10:19:00 AM

How about enlisting the help of a local TNR (trap neuter release) organization such as Alley Cat Allies? Some non-local TNR orgs. have as part of their mission statement to educate and assist... even other locations when possible. The added benefit is they would have resources to investigate laws and humane solutions that fit the community.

rose June 19th, 2008 05:54:00 PM

Hobson: Oooh!--excellent point! I hate the "light ear tip" thing. I won't do it! If I'm doing a spay and neuter at a fraction of the price well, then, I'm sure as hell gonna do it MY way. If someone refuses to adopt a cat because of her identifying ear tip, what can I say? There are more fish in the sea, anyway.

Dr. Patty Khuly June 20th, 2008 09:07:00 AM

Thanks Patty, for giving me another retort. I keep kittens out in the reception area for adoption and will provide one to anyone that refuses to take an ear cropped kitten. BTW these kittens are adopted on an inside only basis.

Hobson June 20th, 2008 09:54:00 AM

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