Vet P.O.V. We [Veterinarians] Can’t Have It Both Ways

July 27th, 2008  

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After a failed post of comparing human/animal medical care not appearing on this site, I'll shorten to a few sentences:

If any reader, whether animal professional or pet-owner, after viewing my web site, including the death page of my cherished "Pocket" feels that their governmental resources or legal avenues offer any protection from fraud, abuse, negligence, or cruelty; I would be most happy to read those comments.

I can only state that Pocket's Story is only one form of egregious conduct that has occurred in my state of New Hampshire without repercussion or previous discontinuation of inhumane end of life for companion pets. My web site link is attached to my name.

Barbara A. Albright/New Hampshire July 27th, 2008 01:40:00 PM

I agree with your bottom line conclusion here, which is that veterinary medicine's official stance against non-economic damages is untenable.

I also sadly observe that your confessed hesitancy to testify in a way potentially damaging to a colleage is pervasive among your ranks, and I observe that this generally remains true regardless of the accused vets apparent culpability or lapses, etc. It makes me very sad that "good vets" routinely cast their sympathies with vets who are practising shoddy medicine. I presume that the thinking goes:

"There but for the Grace of God go I."

But in fact, that's not true.

When a vet ligates ureters during a spay . . . . is it a case of "there but for the grace . . ."

When a vet repeatedly ignores the symptoms of bloat until it's too late, in a breed prone to bloat, is it a case of ". . . there but for the grace . . .?"

When a vet leaves his patients with an unlicensed assistant, who is allowed unsupervised, to give dangerous drugs, and an overdose results, is it a case of "there but for the grace . . . "

When a vet loses his temper and lashes out at a patient, is it a case of "there but for the grace . . ."

These are all real examples. The hesitance of veterinarians who care about quality and accountability to participate in holding their colleagues accountable in such circumstances is, to say the least, incredibly depressing to a comitted pet owner looking down the road at a lifetime of needing veterinarians.

After my cat was OD'd, he was taken to a 24 hour place. I never had a chance to talk to the attending vet there about what she'd observed that night in my cat. When I went to talk to her, after I'd already filed a complaint on the first vet, she came out and basically yelled at me in front of a lobby full of people, saying she'd sent the records to the board, and she "washed her hands" of the case. She was friends of course, with the first vet, and when she was asked to come to the board confernce, she sat next to him, they were chatty, as far as I was concerned they might as well have been holding hands. She had to admit that my cat was comatose when he was delivered to her.

As for post-traumatic stress, what about the PTSD suffered by those of us who live with the vision of our suffering loved ones?

I held my cat in my arms on a one and a half hour drive in rush hour traffic while he had a series of grand mal seizures and nearly died, yowling. This was due to the brain damage suffered from "neuroglycopenia." They had to induce a coma to get it to stop. Then watching him struggle to get up and walk. Waiting for him to recover, which the neurologist said would not occur if there had been "massive necrosis." Well, I guess that there had been massive necrosis. I relive that drive nearly every day, and did so even more acutely while he was alive and I was watching him struggle to walk and relearning to groom. I went into full fight-or-flight response over and over, at a variety of triggers. Couldn't sleep. I blamed myself for trusting the vet. I woke up in a sweat praying that it was all a bad dream. Day after day I looked up at my damaged friend and realized that it was not a bad dream. It was a living nightmare.

So, I'm not too sympathetic on suffering PTSD as a result of having to defend a malpractice accusation. A vet who is not guilty of malpractice should be confident, especially with the vet boards who take action in less than 10% of cases in most states. They inherently sympathize with their colleagues, following the same logic as above.

If they have, however, done something they should not have, then I doubt their PTSD compares in magnitude to that of the bereaved, terrorized, heartbroken owner. I know this firsthand.

If everyone would stand up and demand and accept accountability, a lot of the stress and horrible feeling would go away on both sides. Getting the gaslight treatment definitely makes things worse for owners. It always happens. I imagine the stress of lying, defending, and covering up also causes a great deal of emotional damage for practitioners.

We need to move toward quality and accountability. The blame game will end when vets are willing to stand up, be accountable, strive for quality, and deal fairly with owners. No one wants to get rich off losing their pet.

They want their losses acknowledged and valued. They want accountability. They want to know that steps are being taken to make sure it doesn't happen again.

This is starting to happen in human medicine with the disclosure and apology movement, and I can only hope that it takes hold in vet med as well.

Stefani July 27th, 2008 03:41:00 PM

Stefani: You're right. I was reluctant to testify against my own. But only because what he did was not wrong. In fact, my testimony got him off the hook...but only because he *deserved* to be spared the loss of license that his accusers were seeking. What happened was an accident plain and simple. Sometimes that happens.

Dr. Patty Khuly July 29th, 2008 08:17:00 AM

Although many pet owners "seek" to have a vets license taken away by the vet board, this happens extremely rarely, and that's an understatement.

While I don't know the circumstances of your colleagues situation, I can say that what happened involving my cat was also an "accident" -- but IMHO, an accident made possible by mind boggling carelessness and negligence in leaving an unqualified person alone to administer meds with no vet on premises. I bring this up not to harp again on my own case but to underscore the pont that some accidents are bound to happen as a result of shoddy management procedures. Particularly when it involves unlicensed technicians and assistants, for example.

Stefani July 29th, 2008 08:51:00 AM

No doubt that not all accidents are created equal. You're right. The two situations are not comparable.

Dr. Patty Khuly July 29th, 2008 12:11:00 PM

Dr. Khuly, Would you have testified if your colleague was clearly wrong & negligent? I would like to think that the legal system id still intact and that *any person* under oath will tell the truth, whether favorable or not to any party, particularly involving medical expertise.

It would think it would be difficult to justify euthanasia performed by a veterinary professional utilizing toxic chemicals (no better than household "Drano")on a fully conscious animal, both illegal and unethical. How would you feel about testifying to a like circumstance?

I can't help but think it is doubtful that both a client (and attorney) would bring a case to court without some "malpractice or negligence involved" , after all, legal expenses aren't cheap and if prevailing--judgements are exceeding low involving a pet.

But yes, I do not know of the "case" you refer to.

Barbara A. Albright/New Hampshire July 29th, 2008 07:35:00 PM

Barbara: I was talking to my boyfriend about that the other day. There are a handful of vets in this area I would LOVE to have the opportunity to testify against. I'd like nothing better than to see vets who abuse clients emotionally and/or financially, refuse to refer cases they cannot treat (my big pet peeve), and/or cut serious corners (without letting their clients know they're doing so) prosecuted for what I consider "crimes."

Yes, some vets deserve a big legal boot in their backsides. As in every industry there are always a few bad apples. That's what the legal system is there to help us weed out. But, no, I was only ever called in to testify on what I considered an "acceptable surgical complication," something that could've happened to any vet.

Dr. Patty Khuly August 3rd, 2008 10:31:00 AM

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