Absolutely!!! I have one of those kitties myself and the inability to administer antibiotics has been a problem in the past. I would gladly pay extra to avoid the claws!

Lynn May 8th, 2008 09:30:00 AM

Provided it turns out to be safe, this is very exciting.

I have one kitty who is virtually impossible to medicate orally. After her dental, with extractions, my ability to get her rx'ed antibiotic into her was very unreliable. As she is now 8 years old and has transitioned into "geriatric" classification, I am full of dread for the day when she gets old age diseases requiring regular meds. I'm just not going to be able to pill this cat, or give her syringes full of liquid.

I am quite certain shots would be a much better option.

I know this is only an antibiotic but there are so many things that require antibiotics that I am sure this will come up again.

Aside: It never ceases to amaze me how many people whose cats are diagnosed with feline diabetes press their vets for alternatives to giving insulin shots. Often these people are given oral meds which are not effective in most cats and even when they work, I have been told that all they really do is force the failing pancreas to work even harder and can make things worse in the long haul.

But what really amazes me is that people prefer the struggle of pilling a cat to giving a shot in their scruff that they barely feel! If people realized how easy the shots are compared to the pills, I wonder if that would sway them?

Stefani May 8th, 2008 10:13:00 AM

My guys had it last year within days of its approval here in Canada and it seems to work very well. It sure beats liquids - yuk! - and while pills are pretty easy to administer, the 'conveniance' of a two-week injection is great.

I think we've used it about three times, fortunately not since 2007 - touching wood right now, everybody's been spectacularly healthy for a long time, even my old heart-failure suffering Wiener dog.

Caveat May 8th, 2008 10:20:00 AM

Having own cats that could do Exorcist style neck movements while claw-milling like a woodchipper--yesIi would go for that option.

emily May 8th, 2008 10:20:00 AM

Incidentally, regarding cost, it depends on the size of the dog. I have two Toys and my mini-dachshund, so it cost me around $18 a pop here which is actually cheaper than pills or liquids.

Caveat May 8th, 2008 10:22:00 AM

are you kidding I would sell my soul; not to have to pill another cat with antib's and if the manufactuere doenst think that cat owners will fork up big $$ for this they are mistaken

james May 8th, 2008 10:37:00 AM

not for the dogs - don't have problems medicating them, plus I'm not crazy about a drug that would stay in the system that long - what would happen if the dog didn't tolerate it very well?

for the cat - it would depend....

lm May 8th, 2008 11:48:00 AM

I would pay more than $40 for 2 weeks of antibiotics that I didn't have to somehow get down a cat's throat! I have one who is practically feral and who will not allow me to approach her after something like a vet visit. Pilling her is impossible unless I want to traumatize us both. What a god-send it would be to have one simple shot!

Andrea May 8th, 2008 02:52:00 PM

Reading this made me laugh as I have just been bitten in the thigh by my rescued rabbit (only had her 3 weeks, extremely scared of people) whilst attempting to administer Baytril-she had a reaction to her Myxi vaccination and then scratched it into a necrotic patch..

So a big YES PLEASE to long-acting medicines of any kind in the veterinary sphere. Although to raise the other side of the issue, after having seen a friend go through hell with the injectable contraceptive (lasts 6 months!), side-effects would be something to look at as a client. I would perhaps choose the shorter-acting drugs for the more people friendly of my pets.

Sian May 8th, 2008 04:09:00 PM

No, I would not use a new, long-acting drug on my dogs.

I've had some nasty drug reactions myself, and I don't like the idea of my animal suffering from a two-week period of distress that can't be stopped.

Drugs are tested, sure, but it's not until they are widely used that we know about a lot of side effects. I'm old enough and suspicious enough of marketing that it won't be my pets that suffer. Even though my vet was pushing them, I didn't do the long-term heartworm treatments, either, and I haven't lost a night of sleep about that one.

I have no trouble pilling my dogs, and like the idea that I can STOP the meds and call my vet if something goes terribly wrong.

Sue May 8th, 2008 05:26:00 PM

I was going to say yes, even without owning cats. However, everyone who brought up the potential for adverse reactions to long lasting medication has a great point. For the impossible to pill dog (yes they exist) it'd take a daily or every-other-day injectable antibiotic. She's much more cooperative about needles than she is about pills.

AdoptedAPBTs May 8th, 2008 05:57:00 PM

My experience with Convenia (my dachs had it twice for upper respiratory problems, my Griff once for an abscess and dental extraction) is that were zero side effects. No diarrhoea, no vomiting, no problems at all. There are also no food restrictions such as with Clavamox (no dairy of any kind for the course).

I'm not saying it's harmless, no drug is, but that was my experience and I'd let them take it again if it was the right drug for the problem.

Caveat May 8th, 2008 06:23:00 PM

It would save on tablets being spat out and not noticed until too late, but what I would really like is an antibiotic that did not lead to diarrhea, in other words didnt kill the good bacteria as well as the bad.

Robin May 8th, 2008 06:33:00 PM

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anna May 8th, 2008 10:18:00 PM

I'm not a big fan of "new "drugs. But even if it's not a new antibiotic and just a new dosing form, there are some important things I would need to know....like how it is suspended to make it long lasting....does it contain thimerisol?.....cats are much more sensitive long term to more things than people and dogs...
I hate pilling my cats...but a pill gun works wonders, and those I can't pill get injectible antilb's when needed. There are also pill pockets, they work well and now I see pill dough....then there is always a little cheese....

I'd have to wait quite a while and know quite a bit more before I was willing to use this.

LorriM May 8th, 2008 11:22:00 PM

Add me to those who would prefer injection to pills for my cats. Although I can give them pills, they don't like it any; but they barely even flinch at injections. Even daily injections would be better than daily pills. And I think the concern for side effects is no worse than with any drug: although the immediate gut feeling is to think "lasts two weeks? must be really strong", that probably isn't true; short- or long-acting drugs both have a variety of ways they could go wrong.

T.T. May 8th, 2008 11:26:00 PM

Is there anything like that for fleas?? **Just wondering.

ashleigh May 8th, 2008 11:27:00 PM

Personally, I prefer to have pills encased in yummy treats like peanut butter. Much better than getting a shot.

Sincerely,
Aoife the flat-coated retriever

flattie May 9th, 2008 12:13:00 AM

I'm with Im and Sue (and others?) -- I can't justify the expense for my dog, who is easy to pill. And I've become an ace record keeper, even for two weeks at a time.

I hasn't even thought of the potential of a drug reaction which might last for two weeks. Is there a way to check beforehand -- something like "test in an inconspicuous spot before using"?

M May 9th, 2008 01:56:00 AM

One thing I like about the product is its extensive use in Europe and Canada where minimal reactions have been noted. Plus, third generation cephalosporins like this one tend to have fewer GI effects. So, for example, if your pet can take Simplicef just fine, this should be no different--theoretically. But I'm with you on preferring to pill my dogs if I'm sure I can get it into them on a timely basis. Cats? It's hit or miss depending on the personality type I'm dealing with. And a few dogs are equally difficult (small, picky eaters, especially. I think I'll be using a lot of this.

Dr. Patty Khuly May 9th, 2008 08:33:00 AM

Ashleigh: For fleas, I've been using Comfortis if Frontline and Advantage don't seem to be doing the trick. It's a once a month pill but it's only for dogs. Injectable flea meds have not yet been developed--I imagine the market to be quite small.

Dr. Patty Khuly May 9th, 2008 08:35:00 AM

Is the dosage determined by weight? Or is it yet another One-Dose-Fits-All med? I would not pay $100 for long lasting antibiotics for my dog (she's only 8 pounds).All it takes for her to gulp down a pill is a little peanut butter or cream cheese. No sweat.

It's interesting how disconnected Pfizer is from their target market. It seems, from these comments alone, that cat people would benefit greatly from this and would be willing to pay the higher cost.

Creature of Habit May 9th, 2008 08:47:00 AM

Creature: Pfizer will definitely make this available for cats--I just think they want to get the excitement going in the dog market, too (hence the freebie). And yes, it varies by weight. I think someone earlier said their small dogs' dose cost $18.

Dr. Patty Khuly May 9th, 2008 09:35:00 AM

Ashleigh: Injectable fleatreatment does exists (at least in Europe). The active drug is called lufenuron, it stops the fleas development from eggs to larvae and from larvae to full-grown fleas. It does not kill adult fleas, so it can only be used as a preventive treatment. One injection lasts 5-6 months. We have a few clients, who perfer this kind of fleatreament, but mostly people are happy with the spoton, so they safe their cat the trip to the vet.

/Mette, DVM

Mette May 9th, 2008 02:57:00 PM

Pills are no problem for my dog. I could give her a pill the size of a golfball if I wrapped it in a piece of cheese first.

If there is any evidence that it works better to knock down my dogs periodic ear infections hen I would certainly spring for it.

Larry May 9th, 2008 03:15:00 PM

Here are my questions: Would this particular antibiotic be chosen if it were not injectible? IOW is it the appropriate drug for the situation or does it being injectible override all other considerations? What is known about bacterial resistance to this product right now? Does Europe or Canada have a reporting mechanism for adverse reactions like the US does and is it public like the Adverse REaction synopses available to us? Or will we be seeing reports of heretofore "unknown" reactions within a year or so. And Dr. Patty, do the drug reps give you full research articles to go with the freebies?

Oh, and I wouldn't touch lufenuron (injectible Program) with a barge pole. Cats do not need more shots. There have been some problems with long persisting lumps with this product. CLEANING is the primary reaction to a flea infestation, followed by something like Precor and a topical.

CathyA May 10th, 2008 09:26:00 AM

Oh yeah, that's right. We have it here, too. It's called Program. I haven't used it in about ten years. Sorry for the short memory.

Dr. Patty Khuly May 13th, 2008 11:30:00 AM

Oops: In the comment above I was addressing the injectable flea medication issue.

CathyA: I think antibiotic selection in pets is often related to its convenience and our clients' compliance. If we make it convenient, you'll be more compliant. Hence, we should see less resistance.

Is it the right antibiotic? Well...depends. It's best for wounds and skin infections. It wouldn't be my choice for respiratory, gastrointestinal or urinary issues, for example. Vets do actually make antibiotic decisions based on more than just convenience, of course, but it's a big issue for us.

Dr. Patty Khuly May 13th, 2008 11:36:00 AM

I wonder if you feel that Vets are not giving pets far too many needless antibiotics since here the Veterinary Times have published an article saying that Vets are over-prescribiing antibiotiics and I found that I hardly ever left the Vet without being given a packet of antibiotics and feel Vets give them for just about everything even illnesses they know will not be cured by antibiotics such as struvite crystals which are caused by feeding dry pet food and a lack of protein in pet food and lack of water taken in by cats fed dry food but instead of realising this was the cause of my cat's illness the Vet gave me endless antibiotics and kept catheterising my cat and operated on him. He admitted that infection is not usually anything to do with struvite crystals but here a BBC report says Vets are giving needless drugs just to make money. I am concerned that Vets use an arsenal of pharmaceutical drugs on pets instead of telling clients to boost the immune system of the pet by taking it off all pet food and feeding it the food Mother Nature intended it to be fed since giving steroids etc. only mask the illness so sorry Dr. Khully I can't get excited about Pfizer. The Wellcome Trust have given 13 M Pounds Sterling between all the British veterinary schools but to me this is just like the pet food companies giving funding to the veterinary schools since it means Vets give out drugs and think there is a pill for every illness when they should be boosting the immune system of animals by getting them off all pet food and helping the immune system fight any illness or infection.

Fiona July 5th, 2008 09:51:00 AM

My cat just started this 2 days ago. I have not noticed any side effects. Before the shot, I thought he was going to die and now I think we may have some hope. We did blood work and test and nothing shows up. Thinking he got bit by infected mosquito!!!! Not sure if he has West Nile but praying its just an infection. I will write back after he has been on this longer. 2 days can't tell yet but hes hanging in there!

Lucky July 16th, 2008 08:09:00 AM

My cat developed Ataxia after being given the Convenia shot. A feline panel was done, and no virus was found, nor was there any infection. Did the Convenia cause the Ataxia? I cannot say, but I can say that the two events are correlated.

Mary July 30th, 2008 11:45:00 PM

I really wish I saw more people questioning this new drug instead of eagerly welcoming it with open arms in the name of convenience. We need to stop being such sheep. If you have to pill or squirt something in your dog or cat's mouth once or twice a day then just do it.

I've been looking for research on this tonight and only found a few bad stories about it, but all the same: If I had to trust the health of my older dogs/cats to it, I'd rather just do things the old fashioned way.

I live on a feral cat farm and I think I'd rather see any of them in a crate for a week and just have to glove up once or twice a day. I'd feel awful otherwise, if something happened to them just because I was too much of a sheep that I had to jump on the Bandwagon of Convenience.

Kevin Kelly August 14th, 2008 01:05:00 AM

YES, I just administered convenia myself to my cat who's recently been diagnosed with cancer of the jaw. At this moment she has no serious problems with it, but in order to prevent secondary infection to the tumor, worsening her problem, I started her preventivly on convenia.

lucida August 15th, 2008 08:14:00 AM

My English Mastiff is suffering from severe esophagitis to the point due to chronic regurgitation I had a feeding tube put in. He was placed on 2 oral antibiotics to prevent infection at the tube site and continued with the vomiting. So the vet decided to give him Convenia and said there were no side effects. I gave him the subq injection last night and he went spastic! Only thing I could think of was it must of burned during the injection. I kept rubbing the site and he calmed down. He did have diarrhea this morning. Side effect?? It cost me $155.00 for the single injection and my vet said "that was a discount price"

Robbie October 31st, 2008 08:32:00 AM

Robbie: I find that *some* animals feel a sting. Most don't seem to at all, but then, I'm never giving as big a dose as you did for your mastiff. Maybe that's why it stung?? I'm finding I'm using it mostly on small pets due to the $2 per pound pricetag. btw, sounds like you did get a bargain dose. Hope that makes you feel a wee bit better about the sting.

Dr. Patty Khuly November 4th, 2008 11:08:00 AM

My feral cat who was 8 years old had an infection in her gums. The Vet recommended the Convenia at a cost of $80.00 for the 13 pound cat as it is impossible to give an oral drug to her. She went downhill the next day and couldn't hold her urine and was salivating. I called the Vet and she said that there were no adverse effects to this drug. Finally on the 3rd day of this I took the cat in to the Vet as she was very weak. We sadly had to put her to sleep as the Vet did a blood test and said that her kidneys had failed. Was this already in process when we gave her the drug injection? We don't know. But the Vet did say that if the kidney failure was already present when the drug was given then it may have speeded up the kidney failure. I would suggest a blood test before giving this shot again to any of my animals.

Gail November 20th, 2008 11:08:30 AM

Robbin, my Calico/Siamese/Tortie mix, received an injection of this remarkable antibiotic nearly two weeks ago. I paid nearly $52 for it but was happy to do so. Robbin is a 'pill' to pill! Now, my pastel Torbie, Otter Sea Star, has caught Robbin's cold. It is the Thanksgiving holiday, so she'll have to wait another day before she, too, will carted off to the vet for the injection. Otter Sea Star is also a difficult kitty to dose. Three cheers, Pfizter! You are allowing kitties to get well quickly and without the stress. Their owners thank you!

Debi November 28th, 2008 12:55:00 AM

Convenia was just given to a friend for her 5 year old raccoon tonight. She has a UTI. Shots aren't easy in an adult raccoon, but pills can be very challenging, especially daily! This will be the first use in a raccoon that we know of. Fingers are crossed.

kati December 3rd, 2008 08:11:38 PM

Raccoon update - so far so good! 3 days and UTI seems to be improving. No reactions.

kati December 7th, 2008 08:06:02 PM

My farm cat developed a rather nasty absess on the side of the face which didn't find a drainage channel out. At the vets instead of a drainage channel they cut all the skin away where the absess had been and offered a skin graft. They gave it an injection of Convenia but also Antirobe tablets, reading comments on the web Convenia seems to replace pills. Should I be questioning their actions.

Debbie December 18th, 2008 08:06:54 AM

I just did pay for Convenia for my dog with an angry hot spot due to irritation outside his anal glands. 

Very sore, confused and "suffered enough already" the last thing I wanted to do with my Boo was to figure out how to administer pills for the first time in his two year life. And you're absolutely right, even people who love there pets forget, especially when faced with a new regimen. Let the vet give the antibiotic and I'll take care of soothing him with cream without force feeding him pills.

naomi December 20th, 2008 08:02:11 PM

Just today, paid $39.00 for Convenia for my 10 year old male cat who appears to have a UTI. I would have paid more for the convenience of not having to give him pills or shoot liquid down his throat. He already seems to be feeling better and it's been about 12 hours, if that's possible. (Or, maybe I'm entirely too optimistic, we'll see ...)

Jenn December 20th, 2008 08:52:51 PM

I was so hopeful that Convenia would clear up my cat's UTI. There seemed to be an ease of symptoms (frequency and urgency of urination) over the first 4 or 5 days after administration of the injection. Now it is going on 10 days and her symptoms have not abated. I will be going to the vet in the next few days to see what we should do next. I understand that dogs sometimes need a 2nd shot to finally clear up the UTI. I will let you all know what happens.

John December 27th, 2008 09:42:15 AM

I just paid $60.00 for a Convenia injection for my cat. He needed antibiotics and I asked if there was anything injectible (I give my horses pennicillin and it's so much more convenient than oral)... had no idea there was a long-acting antibiotic for cats! Found your site in a google search for Convenia - now added to my "favorites"! ,ki1`I'd buy MJUit again in a heartbeat. He has to take prednisone every other day so, even tho he's good with pilling, I hate torturing him any more than I have to.

Karen January 2nd, 2009 09:49:38 PM

Well we had two of our sweetest but most skittish cats each get an injection of this today and what a relief. Not only would giving them medicine twice or even once a day be not only IMPOSSIBLE, it tooks us days of planning just to catch them to take them to the vet.

Those who say, just shut up and do it, yea you try pilling a 20lb Maine Coon who will not be pilled, that is if you own enough leather attire to protect yourself LOL!

Thank the stars for this new drug! It will no doubt mean life or death to many cats like the ones here, who are either feral or never got adopted for the very reasons this drug was invented. They are unhandleable.

I first heard of it two weeks ago when one of our foster rabbits was given a shot of it after her spay. They said she had a URI, well unfortunately they got her mixed up with the one who actually did have the URI, which I told them about. So I got Baytril for him and it wouldn't have been any problem to give this to either one of them but many people have trouble medicating their rabbits too. I hope it turns out to be safe for use in other exotics as it would be great to not have to medicate a sick wild-caught cockatoo!

The poor Maine Coon is resting comfortably tonight although he may still have to have surgery for his abscess. I thought it more likely that he would recover this way than having stitches he might tear at and the shock of anesthesia and having to stay a night in the hospital when he has a very low stress threshold. Thank the stars for Convenia! And the other kitty, chronic asthma which degrades to pneumonia about once a year. Totally unable to pill or even inject or get near with any type of medical instrument or product. For those who say Convenia is for wooses, well you are welcome to come and medicate my cats, yea right, I'm lazy cuz I don't want to medicate a feral cat. Get real! This drug totally makes my year! The fear is gone of what will we do with the ferals and semi-ferals when they get old and sick? Convenia!

As for using it on dogs, well we do have one little egomaniacal dog who would rather die than wear a collar much less be forced to put something in his mouth which was not his idea. There are many personalities and his is definitely one that will benefit from Convenia as well. Hooray!

Bright Eyes Sanctuary January 14th, 2009 06:37:08 AM

Our cat was given this injection for a minor skin infection from allergies. Two days later, she began regurgitating her food; she threw up every time she ate, but not when she drank water. It was like the worst hairball ever; it lasted 4 days -- she was given hairball medication the entire time, to no avail. As the vomitting finally subsided, she began sneezing and has been doing so for 4 days, with a weird heard jerk movement between bouts of sneezing. She seems uncomfortable. I'm taking her back to the vet tomorrow. I hope it's just allergies and not the convenia. I wonder if the vet would tell me. Not to be paranoid, but my vet just passed away a couple of months ago, and this is some dude I don't even know, but I know he's a lot more "shot/medication happy" than my old vet, who opted for home remedies first and commercial drugs second. I'll let you know how it goes.

Sabrina March 5th, 2009 10:26:35 PM

Our cat was given this injection for a minor skin infection from allergies. Two days later, she began regurgitating her food; she threw up every time she ate, but not when she drank water. It was like the worst hairball ever; it lasted 4 days -- she was given hairball medication the entire time, to no avail. As the vomitting finally subsided, she began sneezing and has been doing so for 4 days, with a weird heard jerk movement between bouts of sneezing. She seems uncomfortable. I'm taking her back to the vet tomorrow. I hope it's just allergies and not the convenia. I wonder if the vet would tell me. Not to be paranoid, but my vet just passed away a couple of months ago, and this is some dude I don't even know, but I know he's a lot more "shot/medication happy" than my old vet, who opted for home remedies first and commercial drugs second. I'll let you know how it goes.

Sabrina March 5th, 2009 10:27:21 PM

I have a Bengal cattery here in PEI, Canada and was using pills for the various ailments and so I had all the adult cats treated with a shot of Convenia. The only side effect they experienced was a temporary loss of weight with four cats out of 9 adults. But within a month all the cats were extremely healthy with good weight gains and shiny coats. I would definately use Convenia as the cats have the proper dosage and there is no more getting torn apart by cats who just don't want to swallow pills twice a day for three weeks! The convenience justifies the cost for human and animal in my opinion.

CanAsianCats cattery March 31st, 2009 09:25:13 AM

I just had a feral neutered who had a huge nasty fight wound on his head.  This guy growls at me if I look at him, so forget pilling.  The low cost clinic told me they would give him convenia if I authorized it . The cost was $20 and I said yes!

I think this will be a godsend to anyone who does rescue or TNR who would like to treat feral cat wounds.  The cat can get the shot while anesthetized for speuter or whatever, and then go back out to the colony without having to retreat the injury.  And if other TNR or low cost clinics can offer it for $20 this is doable for rescues who always operate on shoestring budgets.

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I gladly said yest to this to clear about my cat's UTI....I really hope it does the treat and truly works over a two week period and he doesn't need a second shot.  If anyone has had good results in 2 weeks, please post.  He is also takiing an anti-spasmotic.  It was just over $50 for the 1 dose.

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