Vet News Giving it away feels soooo good (on neutering 91 cats in 3 hours)

March 24th, 2009  

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Just curious - were the other half TNR's?

2CatMom March 24th, 2009 09:37:13 AM

Just curious:  What are doing with the TNRs? 

Fotini March 24th, 2009 10:18:41 AM

The others were feral cats who were either relocated or re-released in their colonies. We did not ask which. And in case you're wondering, in the end we did not tip the ears of the owned cats. 

Dr. Patty Khuly March 24th, 2009 11:06:19 AM

There's been an interesting last-minute development in this bill that I should inform everyone about. Turns out the rep who introduced this bill has caught so much veterinary, animal control and public heat for the measure that it's been scrapped in favor of a bill (of the same designation, HB 451) that drops the mandate and merely allows for the use of a $5 surcharge (already tacked onto license fees in Florida and currently designated for staff education) for sterilization services. 

This is welcome move--and a face-saving measure for Rep. Randolph. The bill will likely pass and animal control officers seem to be in favor of it. Though I worry that municipal animal control personnel will lose out on education, the emergency in animal sterilization seems to warrant it...temporarily, at least.

Luckily, animal services personnel now have access to free lectures sponsored by the South Florida Veterinary Medical Association. We began offering vet technician/assistant CE this year (four sessions) and we hope this effort will help offset any loss of educational opportunities at Animal Services. 

Dr. Patty Khuly March 24th, 2009 11:23:38 AM

The fact that so many owners were eager to get this done, and I suspect very grateful for the opportunity, refutes the basic premise of MSN, that people are generally irresponsible and you have to threaten and coerce them to be "good" owners.

If a family is stressed financially, threatening them with ever escalating fines and penalties will not make them come running. Offering a useful service at a price (or no price) that they can afford without judgement or threats does.

Making pet owners and property owners who are living day to day with feral cats partners in the solution is a win win for everyone.

Giving ACs the power and in fact mandate to fine, seize pets and punish under MSN drives people out of the system in droves. Even if "amnesty" is offered, many people will not come forward out of fear, mistrust and even undeserved shame. And the trust that led so many pet owners to seek out your event will be irrevocably harmed.

JenniferJ March 24th, 2009 11:25:50 AM

Good news!

But don't let your guard down yet. Based on experience, the new bill could be amended again. Or it's original language could slip into another bill. 

But here's hoping MSN is dead at the state level. :-)

JenniferJ March 24th, 2009 11:29:48 AM

I don't have anything of substance to add... just LOL@ the box of testicles :-p

Nana March 24th, 2009 11:41:03 AM

Maybe it's an unfounded fear but I am always very very nervous to put my animals under anesthesia.  Have you lost many animals to this problem?  I have heard stories that some animals just die when put under and it's not a dosing problems, they just can't handle it?

 

PS  Bunch of good looking ladies in your office!  Your staff should do a calendar or something to raise money!

Chuck March 24th, 2009 12:07:55 PM

WOW! Love the pictures, the blog, and the GOOD news! Should clearly illustrate a willingness, a need, and an ANSWER!

Great job, gals!

Barbara A. Albright/NH

Pocket's Story from NH March 24th, 2009 02:34:18 PM

Thank you! thank you thank you thank you, a hundred times thank you for doing this!

and yes, I too had to lol@box of testicles.. especially since I was noshing my lunch.. but it still brought a smile to my face.

Connie March 24th, 2009 02:47:24 PM

Come to think of it, maybe neutering wild-feral males (of the human variety) actually may be an interesting concept.

Animals do far less damge to the world then people do.

Evet March 24th, 2009 03:21:04 PM

Any volunteers guys?

Didn't think so.

 

Evet March 24th, 2009 03:41:42 PM

Thanks, Chuck. Nothing hotter than a bunch of animal loving Latina vets, right? As to the calendar––ummm...no thanks.

Dr. Patty Khuly March 24th, 2009 04:49:14 PM

Great job, Dr. K.  No - Stellar job.  :O)

As an opponent of MSN, and a proponent of low and no cost speuter services, I applaud your efforts at stadium volume!  Now, if more of your colleagues would join the ranks. 

What is really needed are some recommendations from a vet (say one such as yourself, just as an example... wink-wink...) on how a like minded vet or even layperson might go about organizing such an event.  I realize several organizations have publications similar to this (such as NAIA for example) but written as a `Letter to the Vet`I think it may have a bigger impact.

Just a thought...

Keep up the great work - and congrats on a post surely the majority can agree on!  LOL

Kim March 24th, 2009 06:40:57 PM

excellent job...a great contribution to help needy kitties.

LorriM March 24th, 2009 06:54:49 PM

kim: Approach your local VMA (Veterinary Medical Association) and/or your Animal Control an/or not-for-profit cat peeps. Don't write a letter--or do, but then show up in person. 

Your VMA is a branch of the AVMA (American Veterinary Medical Association). Point to what we've done here in Miami. See if you can show up at a meeting. Check their website. Email each and every officer and/or board member. 

Send a targeted mass-mailing to the heads of animal control/shelter, not-for-profits and your VMA.

Say you want to help organize but need leadership. Claim to have many friends on board. It takes 45 minutes to do the basic research. Another hour to write a great hook of an email. Another 2 hours to attend a meeting. And maybe, just maybe, they'll bite. If not, try again in 6-12 months. 

Good luck!

Dr. Patty Khuly March 24th, 2009 07:51:56 PM

Here in CT we have a group that runs a TNR spay/neuter clinic every month.  My only issue is the fact that they casually spay VERY pregnant females.  One vet tech volunteer seems to have a very cavalier attitude about it, and it bothered me enough to discourage me from volunteering again.  I understand the thought process, but I personally think it is unethical to abort kittens that are practically viable.  At subsequent clinics they actually had to euthanize the kittens.  I know they are doing a lot of good, but it still bothers me.  What do you think?

KB March 24th, 2009 07:55:23 PM

Can't say I didn't try!  By the way very nice job on the kitties.  Do you do dogs as well sometimes?  Oh and have you ever performed a vasectomy on a dog?

Chuc March 24th, 2009 09:02:09 PM

I ain't volunteering. LOL

Evet March 24th, 2009 10:10:42 PM

Yay! Doc and crew...super work and great satisfaction at the end of the day!

Teri and the cats of Furrydance March 24th, 2009 10:12:29 PM

Hubby and I to TNR, when called on, where we live. We also volunteer at the large monthly free/low cost spay/neuter days at our local shelter and it never fails to make me giggle when he walks by the box of testes and says "mmm, wrapped candy"...Oh, and he wears his special underwear to every event, just in case he falls asleep. Printed across the front is "I'm neutered, please check ear tip".

Donna March 24th, 2009 11:14:46 PM

Donna: That's brilliant! I love the "special underwear." I think I know where I can have one printed up for the BF. Thanks!

On vasectomies: Yes, I'm willing and able! Here's a post on it.

At these events we only do cats but, as it happened, one dog walked in by accident and she got herself spayed (since we had time). 

Dr. Patty Khuly March 25th, 2009 08:40:43 AM

Accidental spaying huh?  Sounds interesting!

Chuck March 25th, 2009 11:18:45 AM

I'm going to not try to divert this topic as it's a good one but I am more worried about the ill effects on early spay/neuter.  There is a balance that needs to be found of course as there are way too many unwanted pets in this crazy world but some of my own research suggested that your dog just doesn't grow right when it's neutered to early.

This article explains some of my fears.

I'm sure you're a busy woman but if you have time can you take a look at that article Dr. K?  I would be really interested to see what you think as a vet.

 

Chuck March 25th, 2009 11:25:10 AM

Chuck: I'm aware of what Dr. Zink reports, its validity and its role in calling for more of the same research. I've written frequently here on the pros and cons of early neutering/spaying, including the points she raises. Ultimately, however, the jury is still out so the discussion with clients is getting more complex. Since there are no clear mandates/recommendations I'm waiting to see what more specific research shows before changing my protocols definitively in one direction or the other. 

Dr. Patty Khuly March 25th, 2009 05:58:05 PM

Thanks!  With overpopulation it's probably still advisable to recommend spay and neuter asap.  Although our local SPCA will spay/neuter at like 9 weeks old.  I don't like that.

Chuck March 25th, 2009 07:19:58 PM

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