Dolittler: Feline abortion: often an unnerving necessity

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this makes me sad. I never thought about what would happen should a case like this come to our vet hospital. I don't know how you did it. Yes, there are lots of kittens around, but we get people looking for kittens in our hospital very nearly every day. And the shelters can't keep kittens around long enough. so where are all these kittens??

Great picture to go along with this post btw.

# Posted By Trish | 1/14/07 4:08 PM

It never occurred to me that animal medics experienced this sort of emotion when it comes to animal abortions ... I just never thought about it either way. For human medics who do it, the emotions are scary enough, and whether they're denial, blunting, or guilt, the haunting is there. I wonder how the mother cats feel.

# Posted By Stephen Korsman | 1/14/07 4:18 PM

Imagine the cat, trying to give birth to gigantic (compared to her) kittens under some bush. Not only would the kittens die so would the mother. Now she can go on with her life and not bring more strays into the world. And Trish, all the kittens everyone wants are on the streets. Most owned cats are spayed, as are most cared for ferals. It's the wild and wiley who are to smart to be trapped or are in an area where people don't care that end up populating the world. Doc, I hope you recommended trapping and neutering that wandering tom.

# Posted By kattonic | 1/14/07 5:15 PM

I had this done to a cat many years ago. It was a factory cat, a beautiful little calico. Most of the factory cats didn't live that long because they either died from the oils and metal shavings they licked off their perpetually filthy fur or they got caught in machinery.

I had a home for this pretty girl provided I had her spayed. But when I took her to the vets they told me she was pregnant. I thought about it for a few minutes and decided that I'd rather save this one cat and have her go to a good home than leave her and the kittens to their fate in the factory. She ended up living for about 14 more happy years... on my parents farm (with winters in Florida no less!).

# Posted By jacqui583 | 1/14/07 8:24 PM

I care for ferals, and it seems that when they become pregnant, they tend to venture even closer to the house for food. At least three times, I have had pregnant ferals that would not allow themselves to be trapped, but that would come onto the porch to eat with the others. I've developed a system: there's a medium sized dog carrier on the porch, turned on its end. The cat has to come onto the porch to eat, and I make sure she crowds around the food bowl with the others. As her pregnancy progresses, it seems that she gets less wary of me (maybe getting the food is more important than her fear of me). When the timing is right, I put the food bowl down, wait a second until she starts to eat from it, reach down and grab the scruff of her neck, lower her into the upened carrier and slam the door. Off we go. Thank goodness my vet has not ever refused to do the spay, and I engage in the same moral weighing as you, Dr. Patti. Too many kittens in this world, and to let more feral kittens come into the world (and my rural neighborhood) is just not right.

Thanks for talking about this,

Rita

# Posted By Rita | 1/15/07 7:56 AM

Ugh. Considering that my Sphynx Queen is now... 66 days pregnant and counting... This post is hard to bear this morning. I cannot imagine the ethical/emotional issues tied to this subject; I, myself, could not do it. I've taken in ferals/rescues who were pregnant. As long as they are noticeably pregnant, I cannot take them in to be spayed. Is that wrong? Eh, depends upon your definition of wrong. I didn't choose for the ferals/rescues to be unaltered adults or subadults, so I didn't choose their pregnancies.

However, I AM choosing to bring a litter of kittens into this world very shortly. A litter of much-anticipated, already-loved kittens. A litter of four, as well, and yes- her x-rays looked a lot like the one you just posted.

Wow. Tough stuff to read first thing in the morning!

# Posted By Kat | 1/15/07 11:46 AM

Hows about dealing with, as part of your normal day to day duties and responsibilities, having inject the fatal doses (while looking in their sweet eyes) to put down a beautiful mom with her litter of six sweeties at a shelter due to overcrowding. Then deal with their corpses and all the ensuing paperwork; then be expected to go on with your day all bright and cheery dealing with the public and staff like nothing happened.

# Posted By SadButTrue | 1/16/07 7:37 AM

Issues like this are why I always said I would never be a vet.

I had two widower aunts who woke up one morning to find a stray calico running through their yard repeatedly. They decided to catch it and take it to a vet. They tracked it down and found it nesting in one of the widow wells of their basement, with 8 babies. They took every last one of them in. Their home became one of those old lady cat houses. They never regretted it, though.

# Posted By Becky | 1/16/07 10:08 AM

Sadbuttrue- I got a lot of stories like that one. Anyone who works with animals must. No one said you had to be unaffected, and if you can be unaffected by the experience, I firmly believe you shoud not be in that situation. It hurts like hell. So we do what we can to prevent it.

My husband had to hold the animals for the vet tech at the shelter. Including large dogs. One night I woke up pinned to the bed. He then said, "Next dog please," and let me go. Of course I woke him immediately for some serious comforting.

I'd rather spay the pregnant queen than put her and her kittens down.

Kat- you are lucky to already have homes and will love everyone one of your cat's kittens. Most folks who want purebreds are not happy with a former or child of a street cat. So I can understand. Enjoy them and how lucky you are.

# Posted By Georg | 1/16/07 1:35 PM

Georg:

Thank you. Your sincere kindness and empathy are appreciated.

# Posted By SadButTrue | 1/17/07 11:57 PM

As a cat lover I know how sad it is to think about homeless cats and kittens. But I think if every pet owner did there part then there wouldn’t be this ongoing problem, If one can not afford to have there cat spayed or neutered then they shouldn’t have a cat. My cat is having her kittens right now two so far and they are adorable. I would never tack my cat to the vet to have an abortion. I would never have one and I would never have one done to my pets .I’m sure they are no different then a woman they know in someone what went on. As a woman I would never want to wake up to find my once growing belly gone along with my unborn child. There are places that will tack cats and kittens to find them home if the owner can’t. I am agents abortion on humans and animals there are ways to prevent unwanted offspring’s in both.

# Posted By Amanda | 1/29/07 1:12 AM

I'm having the same dilema, but colored by two differing situations, As an intern vet tech in high school, I was horrified at the idea that a lady insisted on the spaying of her cat with the quip, "I just don't want the kittens". this was a very adiult cat who was owned for many years, unspayed, and had been full term pregnant before the lady decided it was just too inconvenient. Even though we offered to take the kittens,Which we didn't normally do, she would have none of it. The reason I objected to the idea at the time was tha the kittens were viable, as a matter of fact, during the spaying, the smallest kitten stirred DESPITE the large dose of "usually fatal to unborn kittens" anestetic. Needles to say we didin't tell the lady about rescue of the kittens, and returned her cat to her.

Many years later I am in the awkard position of wanting to adopt an obvious stray from a feral colony. she is very adolescent, and showed no signs of pregnancy. I am not a rich lady living in a luscious house and my attempts to house this cat will include large sums of unrefundable money since I'm living in rental accomadations that only Recently allowed pets. Any "additional" unauthorized "pets" could be grounds for removal of the original animal itself and termination of my lease. this wasn't even an issue till yesterday when I went looking for the animal and discovered much to my dismay, a suprisingly large increase in her belly size within just a few days of finding her skinny and scrawny. I had intended to house her to prevent a potiential pregnancy while I waited for an available slot with the low cost spay program. Now I am worried. It is not just ethical/moral, but legal as far as my housing whether I take her in pregant, or leave her out till she has the kitens, but risk pregancy again. Besides that, there was a good chance her unknown pregancy would have been aborted last week anyway had I the means to do so as soon as I discovered her as oppose to a week later( I don't know if a vet would do surgery on a sick cat anyway, she would've had to wait and then the pregancy would have been obvious still).

I don't know. I won't affect the feral colony's poplation since none of them are adoptable, but I don't feel right taking kittens to a shelter where they might be killed anyway within a couple of weeks. Why bring them into the world to live a good life for 6 weeks just to be killed at 10 weeks for lack of space?

And you can't say that I didn't do MY part to avoid unwanted kittens, as I am trying to take an abandoned kitten off the street and I had no control over her life before I met her. If I had my own house, I'd take in, spay/neuter every feral or stray that came my way and it wouldn't cost me $250 penalty per cat just to let them in the door. As it is my money will be dumped into pet fees just to rescue this one. And that money doesn't help any body but the landlord.

# Posted By Metqa | 2/22/07 1:45 AM

unnerving necessity Great title. But just a title. I don't agree I don't agree. Just went thruogh it with my recued kitty. In fact on march 25 this year. I was told by the vet to bring me pregnant cat cause she was priority and that they would not do my other cats. When I said no I got the to many cats speech. Not in my neiborhood so I don't know. Then they offered to do all my cats except the boys for free. If I bring her I was told if she is preganat they would not touch her. She was actually in the 50's of days of pregnancy. So I agreed. I camr to pick her and the other cats up and they fixed her and took the kittens. They told me to watch her cause she was very preganat and she was slow waking up. That night she started bleading and had to be takin back. Now she fight my other cat for her babies fiercly till they draw blood. And she has been stealing the other kittens whenever she gets the chance and taking them down stairs in a hiding place and feeding them. The vet said they would lend us a liter to help her out but then they reneged on that stating they had a preganat cat that won't give them up. Why would they do that. I think that is the most monsterous thing I have ever heard of. As americans we are the most arogant self asorbed people on the planet. We can't live with some cats that take care of themselves come on I know there is alot of them. But there is alot of humans to should we start killing them off for the cause. And it's one thing doing this to stray cats but when you do it to cats that have a home. thats kavorkian. How could you. The cats feel it just like you would if someone took your child. That's cruel just because were human we are the only ones with rights. I think maybe the animals should get together and exterminate us. We are the bigger problem. Point and case it MURDER. KITTY MURDER. And it's sickening how you guys can play it down like nothing. I have a large enough home to house many cats. So I don'e beleive that I should be told what to do with my cats. I love all my cats. And I paid almost 500,000 for my house so that my children and cats can be comfortable. Stop the killing for the cause it's sick. PLEASE

# Posted By Tommy Perkins | 3/29/07 6:32 AM

I agree and disagree with Feline Abortion it depends on the situation..

If the mother to be is a house cat or stray that one took in, then she should be allowed to queen as long as she is healthy and up to it. It is not the kittens fault nor the female the blame for cat overpopulation is negelct of pet ownership. I took in a stray female she was pregant and had 3 kittens two were adopted the runt I kept.

Now if the mother cat is feral (wild) then spaying is the best thing: Keeping a feral cat caged to give birth is too stressful, so if you allow her to queen outside you may never find the kittens again and those kittens will turn into untouchable feral cats only too breed more unwanted cats. I do TNR in my area and 2 females I humanely trapped were pregnant, they were wild and scared and kept indoors would made them so upset they may not even nurse a litter so both were spayed. Pillow & Willow now are happy and fed daily. Put on weight and are not affected on their spay.

So it really depends on the situation but regardless all cats should be spayed and neutered.

# Posted By Gina | 4/21/07 3:25 PM

I volunteer at our local shelter, and fill in at the clinic as an impromptu vet tech when no one else is available (I am a nurse of the human kind with 30+ years of experience). Our vet WILL spay a pregnant cat, but not usually when they are very close to term. The cat is spayed, and each fetus injected with the anesthetic euthanasia solution. If within a few days or a week of term, the cat usually goes to foster until the kittens are weaned, then she is spayed and all go to adoptions. The previous shelter vet routinely refused to spay a pregnant cat; he simply euthanized every pregnant cat that came to the shelter. The fine moral line must be decided on an individual basis to do the most good, the least harm, and with the fewest regrets possible.

# Posted By Shellie | 5/7/07 11:08 AM

Abortion as a subject always seems to stir the emotions of a great many people whether that be human or animal abortion.
I feel that it is very difficult to rationally argue to change someones opinions but rather that as individuals we form our ideas and feelings on this subject and once we think a certain way then we stick with it.
So from my own point of view I have no qualms and have neutered cats well into pregnancy and agree with a womans right to have the option of abortion through pregnancy.
Interestingly I have never noticed the colour of kittens coats within the uterus even in late pregnancy but is that because of the way I feel I just have never really looked instead simply concentrating on the uterus removal.
It is possible to get into a moral maze if we over think about things. For example whilst I can understand anyones concerns about the taking of life at what stage is a uterine kitten classed as living ( we will all have widely differing opinions on this one I think ) And taking an even more extreme view, if we think that there are moral issues in respect of abortion are there not indeed issues in neutering in the first place. At the end of the day we only neuter because "we" think it is best for the cat and avoids the issues of masses of unwanted animals but do we "have a right" to do such any more than making a decision to terminate pregnancy.
What I am trying to say is that I think every day veterinary surgeons make moral decisions. I believe that in the vast majority of cases they are made with the welfare of the patient as the main priority and for the right reasons for that patient at that time.
We shouldn't beat ourselves up about it but rather get on with trying to practice good solid veterinary medicine.
One old vet once said to me that he sometimes had a nightmare where loads of the dogs that he had put to sleep were chasing him down a street. I believe in the same situation most of my patients if they could would be thanking me for relieving suffering !
We all react to stressful and moral dilemma situations differently but I'm sure at the end of the day we all want to do what we believe is right.

# Posted By jackholly | 5/7/07 2:30 PM

jackholly: Great points. Because most of my spay/abortions are feral, I get caught up in the morass of individual vs community care. Since these kitties are not "owned," or cared for in an emotional way, I find that I tend towards a societal approach. This means that, while I'm always doing what's best for the individual (the pregnant mom), I am willing to sacrifice other lives (the kittens') for our sake as well as hers. That's what gives me pause.

# Posted By Dr. Patty Khuly | 5/7/07 7:54 PM

As an almost-to-graduation vet tech student, I can completely relate to this article. At our school, we do all the animal care for one of the area shelters, which means we do spays every single week. Just yesterday we did 12. Because the majority of the animals we see are strays that were picked up by animal control, probably 90% of the females are intact...which means we see a lot of puppy and kitten abortions. The first few times, it was gut wrenching. It's drilled into our heads, 'first do no harm', and technically killing kittens and puppies is doing harm. After a while though, you realize that these malnourished, skinny, sickly animals aren't benefiting from carrying the little ones to term. In addition to the stress on the animal mom, there's also the stress on the shelter of having to care for even more unwanted pets, and these ones are helpless. Do I still feel bad when we do a kitten or puppy abortion? Absolutely. If I didn't I'd worry about whether I was getting into the right field. But sometimes the end justifies the means, and I don't have to like it, I just have to understand why we have to do it.

# Posted By Lisa | 5/9/07 11:10 AM

Thanks for sharing. I know it must be hard, but as someone who fosters lots and lots of unwanted kittens, I am glad that so many vets are willing to do the right thing and end the pregnancies of cats coming in to be spayed. I always remind myself how much more heartbreaking it is for small kittens to starve to death, be mistreated, freeze, or just spend a lonely life on the street. And for families that want to just have one litter (or a few) and insist that they will find good homes for the kittens, I always remind them that for every home they find for one of their kittens, that is a home that wasn't available to one of the other kittens out there. There are ALWAYS too many kittens and cats and not enough homes....

# Posted By Elizabeth | 5/10/07 5:19 PM

Yikes. But I agree with the title of your entry; it's an unnerving necessity.

I have three cats, the elder two of which are neutered and spayed, respectively. The youngest isn't yet fixed, but is going in for his "well kitten" check and will be undergoing his surgery shortly thereafter. They're all three rescues, of sorts, and as none of them are purebreds I just can't imagine adding to the pet population especially as I certainly could not handle more than three cats in my home.

Shoot, some days handling three is pushing it, come litter box scooping time.

# Posted By AmandaJ | 5/10/07 7:10 PM

We should do everything we can to prevent adding more cats to the population of those looking for homes.. It's true that kittens are highly adoptable, but many are still euthanized in shelters. And every home a kitten takes is one that an adult cat could take.

There is no excuse to breed your cat whatsoever, or allow your cat to remain unaltered. It is plain selfish to the point of cruelty.

I recently brought in a full-term feral to get spayed. She had two decaying fetuses in her womb. She was just not healthy enough to carry the babies. I have seen a full-term abortive spay performed and it is not pleasant -- I felt like throwing up -- but I know it is the right thing. I don't regret it one bit.

# Posted By Lizzie | 9/21/07 3:17 PM

I was faced with this situation last week, when my beloved baby Barnacles went into labor and was too small to deliver. I rushed her to emergency surgery, where they told me it would be 2000 to do a C Section. Well I tried to do all I could to get this covered, through credit or whatever it took, but I could not. I was panicking at the thought of not only losing Barnacles but her babies. She is an incredibly special cat. She was a stray given to me, and apparently had gotten pregnant just before she was given to me, at 4 months old. She quickly showed very unique qualities, and I've had many cats. She lives with me on a boat and is an incredible boat cat. So when this situation arose, they next offered to spay her and abort the kittens. Oh no. I wasn't having any part of that. But then I was still faced with what to do. Well, the vet came to my rescue and changed the mount of the surgery to 500 and worked out a plan for me. Oh my gosh. I was just beside myself in tears of joy. Then I found out the head vet tech had taken responsibility for me and worked out this monetary plan for me.

During the surgery the head vet tech came out to give me updates. Barnacles had a reaction to the anesthetic and stopped breathing and the whole vet staff went to her rescue and brought her back. Next update, the kittens were all still born despite being very active during her labor. The head vet tech, however, got the whole staff again and gave each one a kitten and told them to work on them for 20 minutes and bring them back. Guess what! They did! Next update, they brought out my Barnacles 5 kids and I was just blown away. Barnacles was waking up and they held her a little while for issues with her vision due to the anesthetic reaction and loss of oxygen to the brain. In fact when we brought her home we found she lost her vision. She could not see her kittens or anything else, and eventually she came around but still rather blind. She would not nurse the kittens for the first day or so, and then took interest but couldn't see them so she'd shove her face into them to locate them and check on them. She often rested her face on them much like she and I did with each other, just to monitor them.

Good news though, her vision has returned and she's the most wonderful mother. Unfortunately we lost 2 kittens which everyone wondered how they'd do due to the very traumatic labor and birth. But the others are doing incredibly well, and I've been at her side 24 hours a day supplementing them with formula.

So as for feline abortion, yes Americans are incredibly self absorbed. I would go to the ends of the earth for my baby and her babies. God forbid anyone tell me a WORD about bringing more cats into this world. My babies are a miracle, just like her mom, and I thank God alone for His care of her during this week. We need a better system to care for the cats. We need more people like me and others on this site who will take in a stray and become their surrogate moms. We don't need to kill a life needlessly! Shame on anyone who dares tell me otherwise. I dare you. If you don't have the heart do to it, fine, but keep the lectures to yourself because there are people in this world who will gladly take in strays. I became a wildlife rehab volunteer and have raised every sort of animal you can imagine because I love them. They needed me. I would rather my cat and my son eat first before I would. Some people feel they need to put themselves first before considering their pets. Oh puleeze.

We can form the right volunteer groups to better deal with this problem instead of taking lives and spreading the sadness into the world. No thanks.

# Posted By Ayesha | 10/5/07 12:22 AM

# Posted By Ayesha | 10/5/07 12:23 AM

As someone who does TNR and has seen quite a few "nearly fulll term" spays I stand by my opinion that while it is terribly unfortunate it is the best thing for all. Many of the kittens born outside do not make it and I think that is cruel. I also don't understand people who can't afford veterinary care being so in favor of delivering litters of unwanted kittens.

# Posted By Jules | 11/13/07 8:30 PM

Hi Dr. Khuly:

Your article is very Clintonesque in that you seem to, initially, perform abortions without a problem and then end by apparently deciding moral and ethical questions override overpopulation arguments. Which is it actually?

At my hospital, we do a lot of kitten rearing. We do not do abortions, even on feral cats, we raise them and find them homes. No we can't save them all, however we do what we can in our area. From a MBA point of view, our kitten/stray portion of the hospital is non-profit and we have a grant to pay our technicians work on the kittens. We also receive an amazing amount of unsolicited checks from our clients that believe in helping us. It can be done.

Cheers on an excellent blog.

Rob

# Posted By Robert Moreau, DVM, Dip. ACVECC | 11/16/07 2:22 PM

Hmmmm....NO. Hillary thought that was enough of an answer (in last night's debate) so I guess it should be good enough for me, Cintonesqe that I am (she and I did go to the same college so that might explain the similarity).

Actually, I'll always choose abortion--unless it's possible (from my X-ray) that the kittens might survive on their own. Problem is, that's never so clear, now, is it? Hence, the conundrum. Sometimes there are no good Yes/No answers.

My position is ambivalent for a very good reason: I'm no politician. I'm just a lowly, confused vet.

Great to hear of your technician buy-in approach. Sounds interesting. Have a website?

# Posted By Dr. Patty Khuly | 11/16/07 2:45 PM

Thank you for your article. This is the first time I have ever posted a comment on anything. However, I had the fortune of a beautiful stray kitten that I found eating from the garbage next door to my office. She was a little more than a hand full. I already have a calico, "Baby Girl", that I adopted from the Humane Society that lives at my office, (luckily I own my business), and since my son and daughter recently graduated college, they are back at home, both with brother cats of their own. Hence, I could not take the stray home, but she now lives in my office. Fast forward a little more than two months later I took her to the vet and they informed me that she is pregnant. I love cats. I have never encountered a cat I didn't like. I have turned many people into "cat people". However, I am happy to know that there is a such thing as cat abortions, as I cannot house nor feed another cat, and more importantly, my "Lil' G" is no more than a kitten herself. Everyday her stomach outgrows her and I am in fear for her life. So Monday, we are going to get spayed and aborted. I love her too much to take the chance on her little life. Keep up the great work all you cat lovers out there. We go above and beyond, but we all have limitations. I will have no guilt, just love!!

# Posted By G. LaPointe | 3/15/08 11:36 AM

# Posted By Games | 3/21/08 4:36 AM

A friend's daughter works at a vet's office. The girl found two 'aborted' kittens in a trash bin, mewing and wiggling. It's vets like THAT who turn my stomach. I've no problem with kitty-abortions as long as the resulting kits are humainely disposed of, not just dumped like trash.

P.S. Both kittens were raised by the girl and homes were found for them.

The stupid vet is still in practice.

# Posted By Claire Miller | 3/27/08 11:12 AM

Everyone keeps using the words "humane" as if this somehow makes the killing of an unborn kitten okay! Cats and their offspring are fellow living creatures on this planet, they don't need to have a "home" in order to have a right to life or the right to continue their species. It is only because humans view the world through selfish and greedy eyes as if we are the only species that has a right to continue are genes and family lines. The world will continue to be sad place when we view the precious life of any unborn creature as disposable.

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# Posted By games | 4/12/08 2:18 AM

People are using "humane" because it's better to kill them in the womb than to wait to kill them later in a shelter after they have been born. That's when it truly becomes sad and morbid.

The world, life itself, it isn't fair; it's not a pretty place. Try as we might, we're not living in a Disney musical. We're living in a world that has a lot of ugliness to it, and it is going to take a lot of work from US to make it beautiful again. We need to fix the problems with overpopulation with animals of all types, cats, dogs, and ourselves. We also need to fix the problems with pollution. It'd be nice if every creature ever conceived could be born and taken care of, but there just aren't the resources for it.

# Posted By CommonSense | 4/29/08 3:11 AM

"So as for feline abortion, yes Americans are incredibly self absorbed."

I know, right? Why can't we be like you and bring more kittens into the world to be killed in the shelters by the thousands daily??? ... DURR!

# Posted By CommonSense | 4/29/08 3:16 AM

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